From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Fri Apr 5 04:51:48 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:51:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Born here on 2013-04-04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8fd424a2-4672-452e-b015-c21a1410133c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_69351497-4765-4b9e-b91a-4298c8938dd4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This email serves the dual purpose of testing the email list, and announcing the official opening of the Software Freedom School. This email list is the first home of the SFS. You-all are the first fishes in the school. (School. Fishes. Get it?) The other starting goals I will achieve soon: * $1000 nest egg - This will give me a starting fund with which to buy servers, or folding chairs, or whatever is needed. Maybe a dozen RasPi's and monitors. Students at DenHac-hosted classes have given about $100. Heather and I are giving the rest. I should have it all together in cash in a few days. I'll send a picture. * BlogCast 0 - It'll describe my plans, hopes, and needs so far, including the big vision, or as much of it as I have so far. I've done a practice recording. I want to make the "real" one, just for us, also in the next few days. I'll send it along as a text file and an audio file. I have lots more goals in my mental "goal cloud", waiting to be picked, SMART-goal-ified, and completed: web presence, URL(s), more funding (10K, 100K), on-site learning events like Pi Lab, a lettered truck, continuing classes at DenHac (et al), educational movies, free (by attribution) training materials, and one day, a space in meat-space to call our own, The Golden Freedom (Internet Cafe, Hacker-Space, Learning Center). Many successful projects were started on a simple "thing a week" commitment. So, that's where I'm starting. This week, I made this mailing list ( finally) . And I hope to finish the other two current goals before Saturday night, without compromising my other roles. I'll go faster now, I promise. I want to get this done-built before I'm too old to enjoy it properly. :-) Wish me luck. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_69351497-4765-4b9e-b91a-4298c8938dd4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >
This email serves the dual purpose of tes= ting the email list, and announcing the official opening of the Software Fr= eedom School. This email list is the first home of the SFS. You-all are the= first fishes in the school. (School. Fishes. Get it?)

The other sta= rting goals I will achieve soon:

 * $1000 nest egg - This will = give me a starting fund with which to buy servers, or folding chairs, or wh= atever is needed. Maybe a dozen RasPi's and monitors. Students at DenHac-ho= sted classes have given about $100. Heather and I are giving the rest. I sh= ould have it all together in cash in a few days. I'll send a picture.
&n= bsp;* BlogCast 0 - It'll describe my plans, hopes, and needs so far, includ= ing the big vision, or as much of it as I have so far. I've done a practice= recording. I want to make the "real" one, just for us, also in the next fe= w days. I'll send it along as a text file and an audio file.

I= have lots more goals in my mental "goal cloud", waiting to be picked, SMAR= T-goal-ified, and completed: web presence, URL(s), more funding (10K, 100K), on-= site learning events like Pi Lab, a lettered truck, continuing classes at D= enHac (et al), educational movies, free (by attribution) training materials= , and one day, a space in meat-space to call our own, The Golden Freedom (I= nternet Cafe, Hacker-Space, Learning Center).

Many successful projec= ts were started on a simple "thing a week" commitment. So, that's where I'm= starting. This week, I made this mailing list (finally). And I hope to finish the other two current goals befo= re Saturday night, without compromising my other roles. I'll go faster now,= I promise. I want to get this done-built before I'm too old to enjoy it pr= operly. :-)

Wish me luck.

--
David L. Willson=
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu<= br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_69351497-4765-4b9e-b91a-4298c8938dd4-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Fri Apr 5 14:36:26 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Fwd: [clue] Immersion Weekends In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <42aaad5d-d143-4c69-b4f7-456df3440844@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_008e2751-817a-4d7f-b7a7-33f64f2260b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm copying in a conversation that is happening on the CLUE list. It looks like there are a few people interested. Please scroll down and read up. And now, I'll tell you what I'm thinking... Something I've wanted to do it for years is take a bunch of Free software geeks "away from it all" and get soaked in knowledge and sunlight for a weekend. Obviously, sunlight and Free software training would have to take turns soaking the geek, because of screen glare. And, there'd have to be some funding, to buy food, or food-making things, for the geeks and rent them places to sleep... So, it might look like this: We all put in for Friday off from whatever and hire baby-sitters as needed. We meet at someplace lovely, like Winter Park or Granby or Frisco or Sloan's lake or something, around dinner time on Thursday. We eat together, hang out a bit, maybe go for a hike or play a board game, and then learn stuph from 8-11. Then at 7'ish Friday, we get up and eat and enjoy the outdoors again, and start learning around 9. We do learning in about 4 hour runs, then eat and play together again, and so on, logging 12+ hours of learning on Friday ... then 10+ on Saturday. ... and 10- on Sunday. Sunday evening, we say good-bye and drive home smarter and happier. Does that sound like a fun way to spend a weekend? Would you want to help create the class, or take the class, or both? -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > I'd like to try a 3x12 LPIC-1 immersion weekend sometime. Someplace > near Golden. Like a three-day lock-in and study. Does that sound > interesting to anyone? > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > ----- Original Message ----- > > When I ran my groups at Datalogix and PARSEC, they were for LPIC-1. > > > It's hard to drum up enough qualified interest to do an LPIC-2. > > > -- > > > David L. Willson > > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Out of curiosity, for the LPIC study group. Were you studying for > > > the > > > LPIC-1, or higher level exam? > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, < clue-request@cluedenver.org > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, I wouldn't mind being a part of one again. I had > > > > started > > > > with an LPIC study group that Dave Willson was leading, but had > > > > to > > > > drop out when I got a new job. I'll be keeping an eye on this > > > > thread, just on the off-chance that something happens with > > > > this... > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > To: "Itttech Instructor" < itttechinstructor@yahoo.com >, > > > > "CLUE's > > > > mailing list" < clue@cluedenver.org > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:17:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > > > > > > > > > Not unless Dave Willson is currently holding one. I'd like to > > > > start > > > > doing one again but that won't happen this month. > > > > > > > > > > What exactly would you like in a study group? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > From: "Itttech Instructor" < itttechinstructor@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > To: "CLUE's mailing list" < clue@cluedenver.org > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:26:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > > > > > > > > > I am new to the mailing list and I saw some material on linux > > > > study > > > > groups. Are there any current linux study groups going on? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > Pietto Vasco > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Mike Harris > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > > > > > > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > > > > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > > > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > _______________________________________________ > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue --=_008e2751-817a-4d7f-b7a7-33f64f2260b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >I'm copying in a conversation that is happening on the CLUE list. It= looks like there are a few people interested. Please scroll down and read = up.

And now, I'll tell you what I'm thinking...

Something I'v= e wanted to do it for years is take a bunch of Free software geeks "away fr= om it all" and get soaked in knowledge and sunlight for a weekend.

O= bviously, sunlight and Free software training would have to take turns soak= ing the geek, because of screen glare. And, there'd have to be some funding= , to buy food, or food-making things, for the geeks and rent them places to= sleep...

So, it might look like this:

We all put in for Frid= ay off from whatever and hire baby-sitters as needed.
We meet at somepla= ce lovely, like Winter Park or Granby or Frisco or Sloan's lake or somethin= g, around dinner time on Thursday.
We eat together, hang out a bit, mayb= e go for a hike or play a board game, and then learn stuph from 8-11.
Th= en at 7'ish Friday, we get up and eat and enjoy the outdoors again, and sta= rt learning around 9. We do learning in about 4 hour runs, then eat and pla= y together again, and so on, logging 12+ hours of learning on Friday
...=   then 10+ on Saturday.
...  and 10- on Sunday.
Sunday even= ing, we say good-bye and drive home smarter and happier.

Does that s= ound like a fun way to spend a weekend? Would you want to help create the c= lass, or take the class, or both?

--
Davi= d L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LP= IC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r= 3VOLution.

I'd like to try a 3x12 LPIC-1 immersion weekend sometime. = Someplace near Golden. Like a three-day lock-in and study. Does that sound = interesting to anyone?

--
David L. Willson
= Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
M= obile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.=

When I r= an my groups at Datalogix and PARSEC, they were for LPIC-1.

It's har= d to drum up enough qualified interest to do an LPIC-2.

= --
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Netw= ork+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a = good time for a r3VOLution.

Out of curiosity, for the LPIC study group. Were you studying for = the LPIC-1, or higher level exam?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, <clue-request@cluedenver.org> wrote:


Actually, I wouldn't mind being a part of one again. I had started with an = LPIC study group that Dave Willson was leading, but had to drop out when I = got a new job. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, just on the off-chanc= e that something happens with this...

T.
----- Original Message -----
From: denni= sjperkins@comcast.net
To: "Itttech Instructor" <itttechinstructor@yahoo.com>, "CLUE's mailing lis= t" <clue@cluede= nver.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 3:17:48 PM
Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups


Not unless Dave Willson is currently holding one. I'd like to start doing o= ne again but that won't happen this month.

What exactly would you like in a study group?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Itttech Instructor" <itttechinstructor@yahoo.com>
To: "CLUE's mailing list" <clue@cluedenver.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:26:06 PM
Subject: [clue] Linux Study Groups



I am new to the mailing list and I saw some material on linux study groups.= Are there any current linux study groups going on?


thanks


Pietto Vasco






--
Mike Harris

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--=_008e2751-817a-4d7f-b7a7-33f64f2260b2-- From paul@ashmoreisland.com Fri Apr 5 15:25:19 2013 From: paul@ashmoreisland.com (Paul Ashmore) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 09:25:19 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Born here on 2013-04-04 In-Reply-To: <8fd424a2-4672-452e-b015-c21a1410133c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <8fd424a2-4672-452e-b015-c21a1410133c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --047d7bdca0bae8e3b504d99eb136 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sir, This might be a bit presumptuous of me to even say these things and ask questions, but I'm going to anyway ! Will you be setting up a wiki, with the aim of sharing information and links and anything else ? Or maybe a bulletin board. Or maybe both ? Did you already do this, and I just missed it ? And, it would be good to run a survey; I mean I would like to see the results of the survey, of what people in the group are interested in. I'm not a big brother eavesdropper, but if there are things I could help with, then I certainly would. The kind of things on the survey I imagined are: 1. Electronics - from PICs, to Micro-processors, to Oscilloscopes, to Soldering, etc... 2. Software - OSs, high-level languages, machine code, assembly, disassembly, Just for x86 ? Other MPUs, MCUs. 3. Reverse engineering - any interest in figuring stuff out from the ground up - Massive subject here 4. Hardware - how about building PC's, or modifying tablets to overclock ... etc I could go on for at least an hour with survey questions. Over and out Paul On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > This email serves the dual purpose of testing the email list, and > announcing the official opening of the Software Freedom School. This email > list is the first home of the SFS. You-all are the first fishes in the > school. (School. Fishes. Get it?) > > The other starting goals I will achieve soon: > > * $1000 nest egg - This will give me a starting fund with which to buy > servers, or folding chairs, or whatever is needed. Maybe a dozen RasPi's > and monitors. Students at DenHac-hosted classes have given about $100. > Heather and I are giving the rest. I should have it all together in cash in > a few days. I'll send a picture. > * BlogCast 0 - It'll describe my plans, hopes, and needs so far, > including the big vision, or as much of it as I have so far. I've done a > practice recording. I want to make the "real" one, just for us, also in the > next few days. I'll send it along as a text file and an audio file. > > I have lots more goals in my mental "goal cloud", waiting to be picked, > SMART-goal-ified, and completed: web presence, URL(s), more funding (10K, > 100K), on-site learning events like Pi Lab, a lettered truck, continuing > classes at DenHac (et al), educational movies, free (by attribution) > training materials, and one day, a space in meat-space to call our own, The > Golden Freedom (Internet Cafe, Hacker-Space, Learning Center). > > Many successful projects were started on a simple "thing a week" > commitment. So, that's where I'm starting. This week, I made this mailing > list (finally). And I hope to finish the other two current goals before > Saturday night, without compromising my other roles. I'll go faster now, I > promise. I want to get this done-built before I'm too old to enjoy it > properly. :-) > > Wish me luck. > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > --047d7bdca0bae8e3b504d99eb136 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sir,

This might be a bit presumptuous of me to even say these things= and ask questions, but I'm going to anyway !

Will you be settin= g up a wiki, with the aim of sharing information and links and anything els= e ? Or maybe a bulletin board. Or maybe both ?

Did you already do this, and I just missed it ?

And, it would be= good to run a survey; I mean I would like to see the results of the survey= , of what people in the group are interested in. I'm not a big brother = eavesdropper, but if there are things I could help with, then I certainly w= ould. The kind of things on the survey I imagined are:
1. Electronics - from PICs, to Micro-processors, to Oscilloscopes, to Solde= ring, etc...
2. Software - OSs, high-level languages, machine code, asse= mbly, disassembly, Just for x86 ? Other MPUs, MCUs.
3. Reverse engineeri= ng - any interest in figuring stuff out from the ground up - Massive subjec= t here
4. Hardware - how about building PC's, or modifying tablets to overcloc= k ... etc
I could go on for at least an hour with survey questions.
=
Over and out

Paul

On Thu, Apr = 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

Star Wars Day at DenHa= c: AGHI2 Linux (6 hours)
June 1st at DenHac: AGHI2 Puppet (6 hours)
= Later in June at DenHac: AGHI2 KVM (6 hours)
July? Somewhere nice, whe= re we can hike: LPIC-1 geek-end getaway (36'ish hours)

AGHI2 =3D A G= entle Hands-On Introduction To ...

--
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network= + A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a goo= d time for a r3VOLution.

--=_81a8573d-2be5-4a99-aafc-3841c4ab83b0-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Sat Apr 6 12:13:48 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 06:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Born here on 2013-04-04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All great ideas. I will put them in the idea stew. Also, let's get a beer and talk. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Paul Ashmore wrote: > Sir, > > This might be a bit presumptuous of me to even say these things and ask > questions, but I'm going to anyway ! > > Will you be setting up a wiki, with the aim of sharing information and > links and anything else ? Or maybe a bulletin board. Or maybe both ? > > Did you already do this, and I just missed it ? > > And, it would be good to run a survey; I mean I would like to see the > results of the survey, of what people in the group are interested in. I'm > not a big brother eavesdropper, but if there are things I could help with, > then I certainly would. The kind of things on the survey I imagined are: > 1. Electronics - from PICs, to Micro-processors, to Oscilloscopes, to > Soldering, etc... > 2. Software - OSs, high-level languages, machine code, assembly, > disassembly, Just for x86 ? Other MPUs, MCUs. > 3. Reverse engineering - any interest in figuring stuff out from the ground > up - Massive subject here > 4. Hardware - how about building PC's, or modifying tablets to overclock > ... etc > I could go on for at least an hour with survey questions. > > Over and out > > Paul > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > > > This email serves the dual purpose of testing the email list, and > > announcing the official opening of the Software Freedom School. This email > > list is the first home of the SFS. You-all are the first fishes in the > > school. (School. Fishes. Get it?) > > > > The other starting goals I will achieve soon: > > > > * $1000 nest egg - This will give me a starting fund with which to buy > > servers, or folding chairs, or whatever is needed. Maybe a dozen RasPi's > > and monitors. Students at DenHac-hosted classes have given about $100. > > Heather and I are giving the rest. I should have it all together in cash in > > a few days. I'll send a picture. > > * BlogCast 0 - It'll describe my plans, hopes, and needs so far, > > including the big vision, or as much of it as I have so far. I've done a > > practice recording. I want to make the "real" one, just for us, also in the > > next few days. I'll send it along as a text file and an audio file. > > > > I have lots more goals in my mental "goal cloud", waiting to be picked, > > SMART-goal-ified, and completed: web presence, URL(s), more funding (10K, > > 100K), on-site learning events like Pi Lab, a lettered truck, continuing > > classes at DenHac (et al), educational movies, free (by attribution) > > training materials, and one day, a space in meat-space to call our own, The > > Golden Freedom (Internet Cafe, Hacker-Space, Learning Center). > > > > Many successful projects were started on a simple "thing a week" > > commitment. So, that's where I'm starting. This week, I made this mailing > > list (finally). And I hope to finish the other two current goals before > > Saturday night, without compromising my other roles. I'll go faster now, I > > promise. I want to get this done-built before I'm too old to enjoy it > > properly. :-) > > > > Wish me luck. > > > > -- > > David L. Willson > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > > From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Mon Apr 8 21:23:55 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] RT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3f26c3a4-a13a-4923-8c96-9e5fa497d1ea@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_b7dd1fac-7e23-4ffb-ae41-b029b0306930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you, or anyone you know, know how to build and administer RT (Request Tracker)? -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_b7dd1fac-7e23-4ffb-ae41-b029b0306930 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do you, or anyone you know, know how to build and administer RT (Request Tracker)?

--
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_b7dd1fac-7e23-4ffb-ae41-b029b0306930-- From trridgley@thegeek.nu Mon Apr 8 21:27:29 2013 From: trridgley@thegeek.nu (Troy R. Ridgley) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] RT In-Reply-To: <3f26c3a4-a13a-4923-8c96-9e5fa497d1ea@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <7571c8cb-cc44-4031-971e-cf70eae6dd3c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Yes, but it has been a few years since I've used it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:23:55 PM Subject: [SFS] RT Do you, or anyone you know, know how to build and administer RT (Request Tracker)? -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. From stanczyk@pcisys.net Mon Apr 8 21:39:02 2013 From: stanczyk@pcisys.net (Mike Stanczyk) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] RT In-Reply-To: <7571c8cb-cc44-4031-971e-cf70eae6dd3c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <7571c8cb-cc44-4031-971e-cf70eae6dd3c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: Ditto. Yes, I've set it up and run it but I'll bet it's been longer for me than Troy. (2003ish) Mike On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Troy R. Ridgley wrote: > Yes, but it has been a few years since I've used it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:23:55 PM > Subject: [SFS] RT > > > Do you, or anyone you know, know how to build and administer RT (Request Tracker)? > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Mon Apr 8 22:11:31 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 15:11:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] RT In-Reply-To: <7571c8cb-cc44-4031-971e-cf70eae6dd3c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: Troy and Obi Wan Mike Nolte and Chris Fedde and Mike Stanczyk (and anyone else that might reply in the positive) (other than the one fellow who I know is busy this month and next :-)), I want to get up a class for April 27th, probably in my basement, if I can't find a better place. And, I've always wanted an RT server to direct my customers to. I was thinking it'd be fun to combine those two wants into a "Build Your Own RT Server" Saturday if I can find a session leader. Any of you up for leading something like that? I make a great teacher's assistant. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Yes, but it has been a few years since I've used it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:23:55 PM > Subject: [SFS] RT > > > Do you, or anyone you know, know how to build and administer RT > (Request Tracker)? > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Tue Apr 9 05:02:19 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] School-build status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5c361392-9efe-421c-a685-578283ab37df@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_87d890b4-fe6a-4492-95c7-b157cf3863d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the $1000 starter fund put together. I have decided to name this the "emergency fund" and not to use it, except to resolve emergencies, like dead projectors and other sorts of failures that try to derail an event. Troy and I ran into some technical problems (my microphones all suck) and some bio-problems (my spine sucks) on Sunday when we tried to record a podcast. Between mechanical and physiological failures, I had to call it a day pretty early in the afternoon. So, I've decided to share some unedited journal entries with you. All I'm going to do is compress them to ogg audio and ogg video and post them on my server in the basement. One day soon, I'll figure out torrent'ing and/or get a real hosting package, so you all don't have to share my puny band-width. This week I'm thinking about and working on: - Starting a conference call for those of us who want to contribute time, talent, and/or treasure to building this school can talk about what is being done, and what ought to be done. - rsync screen-cast: "How to backup your system to an internal hard-drive, external USB drive, or a remote server, using rsync." - still want to do a podcast with Troy Ridgley - putting together a "Build your own RT (Request Tracker) server" session, for later this month. - nailing down the KVM class in late June - moving forward with the Linux immersion weekend (LPI-101) for July? August? - PostgreSQL!!! (gentle hands-on introduction or series?) Suggestions? The challenge area most on mind lately is how we get the list of classes out to all the folks that might be interested... I want to reach normals intent on becoming geek enough to be somewhat self-supporting, geeks in the middle, and hard-core vets looking to broaden their knowledge during a direct social interaction in meat-space. I know there's no perfect recipe for this, but I want to come up with a good marketing mix. And... That's all for now. I'll send you a link after I post the files. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_87d890b4-fe6a-4492-95c7-b157cf3863d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >I have the $1000 starter fund put together. I have decided to name this th= e "emergency fund" and not to use it, except to resolve emergencies, like d= ead projectors and other sorts of failures that try to derail an event.
=
Troy and I ran into some technical problems (my microphones all suck) a= nd some bio-problems (my spine sucks) on Sunday when we tried to record a p= odcast. Between mechanical and physiological failures, I had to call it a d= ay pretty early in the afternoon. So, I've decided to share some unedited j= ournal entries with you. All I'm going to do is compress them to ogg audio = and ogg video and post them on my server in the basement. One day soon, I'l= l figure out torrent'ing and/or get a real hosting package, so you all don'= t have to share my puny band-width.

This week I'm thinking about and= working on:

 - Starting a conference call for those of us who = want to contribute time, talent, and/or treasure to building this school ca= n talk about what is being done, and what ought to be done.
 - rsyn= c screen-cast: "How to backup your system to an internal hard-drive, extern= al USB drive, or a remote server, using rsync."
 - still want to do= a podcast with Troy Ridgley
 - putting together a "Build your own = RT (Request Tracker) server" session, for later this month.
 - nail= ing down the KVM class in late June
 - moving forward with the Linu= x immersion weekend (LPI-101) for July? August?
 - PostgreSQL!!! (g= entle hands-on introduction or series?)


Suggestions?

The = challenge area most on mind lately is how we get the list of classes out to= all the folks that might be interested... I want to reach normals intent o= n becoming geek enough to be somewhat self-supporting, geeks in the middle,= and hard-core vets looking to broaden their knowledge during a direct soci= al interaction in meat-space. I know there's no perfect recipe for this, bu= t I want to come up with a good marketing mix.

And... That's all for= now. I'll send you a link after I post the files.

--
David= L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPI= C-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3= VOLution.

--=_87d890b4-fe6a-4492-95c7-b157cf3863d7-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Tue Apr 9 05:42:44 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 22:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] SFS presents: Build your own RT server with Troy Ridgley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48b80e50-c224-47ea-9bb5-d771c04aceec@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_ddf5a24f-5af9-4bdb-8c10-8ac64aadc069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have need for a ticket-tracking server for your help-desk or support team? Or, does the one you have suck, and you want to try something else? RT (Request Tracker) is a Free issue-tracking system that has a strong reputation built over many years. You may find it's exactly what you're looking for. My Software Freedom School is proud to present Troy Ridgley leading an RT Installfest. Come build your own RT server with us. When: Saturday, 4/27, 10AM to 4PM Where: The SFS underground learning center We have limited space, and this is the first time running an event here, so we're only going to take the first 10 RSVP's. You'll need to bring your learning system running Virtualbox, Vmware, or a virtualization product of your choice that you can self-support, or ready to install Virtualbox. If you want to come learn with us, but you don't an appropriate system, RSVP anyway and we'll try to scrounge up a loaner for you. In that case, please bring a big USB stick, so you can take your RT server home. SFS classes are a free gift to you, but we gratefully receive contributions of time, talent, and treasure when you're so moved. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_ddf5a24f-5af9-4bdb-8c10-8ac64aadc069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Do you have need for a ticket-tracking server for your help-desk or suppor= t team? Or, does the one you have suck, and you want to try something else?=

RT (Request Tracker) is a Free issue-tracking system that has a str= ong reputation built over many years. You may find it's exactly what you're= looking for.

My Software Freedom School is proud to present Troy Ri= dgley leading an RT Installfest. Come build your own RT server with us.
=
When:
    Saturday, 4/27, 10AM to 4PM
Where:
 &= nbsp;  The SFS underground learning center

We have limite= d space, and this is the first time running an event here, so we're only go= ing to take the first 10 RSVP's.

You'll need to bring your learning = system running Virtualbox, Vmware, or a virtualization product of your choi= ce that you can self-support, or ready to install Virtualbox.
If you wan= t to come learn with us, but you don't an appropriate system, RSVP anyway a= nd we'll try to scrounge up a loaner for you. In that case, please bring a = big USB stick, so you can take your RT server home.

SFS classes are = a free gift to you, but we gratefully receive contributions of time, talent= , and treasure when you're so moved.
 
--
David L. WillsonTrainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_ddf5a24f-5af9-4bdb-8c10-8ac64aadc069-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Tue Apr 9 06:03:00 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 23:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] School-build status In-Reply-To: <5c361392-9efe-421c-a685-578283ab37df@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --=_d4122570-680a-4b6f-b249-2976f306f447 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, if you think you can stand them, the raw journals are at: http://mailman.thegeek.nu/~dlwillson/files/ The compressed and uncompressed versions of each file are there. For each .wav, there is a .ogg, and for the .mts (mpeg-2 something stream, I guess) there is a .ogv. If you want to help me set up a torrent server sometime, I'll gratefully accept. I have some more raw media of friends that are community-minded, but this will do for now. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > I have the $1000 starter fund put together. I have decided to name > this the "emergency fund" and not to use it, except to resolve > emergencies, like dead projectors and other sorts of failures that > try to derail an event. > Troy and I ran into some technical problems (my microphones all suck) > and some bio-problems (my spine sucks) on Sunday when we tried to > record a podcast. Between mechanical and physiological failures, I > had to call it a day pretty early in the afternoon. So, I've decided > to share some unedited journal entries with you. All I'm going to do > is compress them to ogg audio and ogg video and post them on my > server in the basement. One day soon, I'll figure out torrent'ing > and/or get a real hosting package, so you all don't have to share my > puny band-width. > This week I'm thinking about and working on: > - Starting a conference call for those of us who want to contribute > time, talent, and/or treasure to building this school can talk about > what is being done, and what ought to be done. > - rsync screen-cast: "How to backup your system to an internal > hard-drive, external USB drive, or a remote server, using rsync." > - still want to do a podcast with Troy Ridgley > - putting together a "Build your own RT (Request Tracker) server" > session, for later this month. > - nailing down the KVM class in late June > - moving forward with the Linux immersion weekend (LPI-101) for July? > August? > - PostgreSQL!!! (gentle hands-on introduction or series?) > Suggestions? > The challenge area most on mind lately is how we get the list of > classes out to all the folks that might be interested... I want to > reach normals intent on becoming geek enough to be somewhat > self-supporting, geeks in the middle, and hard-core vets looking to > broaden their knowledge during a direct social interaction in > meat-space. I know there's no perfect recipe for this, but I want to > come up with a good marketing mix. > And... That's all for now. I'll send you a link after I post the > files. > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_d4122570-680a-4b6f-b249-2976f306f447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Well, if you think you can stand them, the raw journals are at: http://mai= lman.thegeek.nu/~dlwillson/files/

The compressed and uncompressed ve= rsions of each file are there. For each .wav, there is a .ogg, and for the = .mts (mpeg-2 something stream, I guess) there is a .ogv.

If you want= to help me set up a torrent server sometime, I'll gratefully accept.
I have some more raw media of friends that are community-minded, bu= t this will do for now.

--
David L. Wills= on
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubunt= u
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.=

<= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Mark,

Thanks for the RSVP. You're the first. Your desired sof= tware stack is going to be tricky, but I'm = sure we're up to the challenge.

"SFS" =3D Software Freedom Sc= hool, my um... group. Right now, it's just a mailing list, a small starting= fund, a bunch of journal entries, some dreams, and the best bunch of helpf= ul friends a guy could hope for. And a successful track record of deliverin= g Free software education and support services.

"SFS Underground Lea= rning Center" =3D The comfy-room in the lower level of the Willson home at = 4237 W. Grand Ave, Denver, CO 80123

--
David L. Willson
Traine= r, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile = 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

David, =

= Setting up RT looks like a very practical & useful exercise. &nbs= p;

Beyond having a Linux VM set up, how much else nee= ds to be up & running prior to the start of the exercise?  Are the chosen web server & databa= se to be installed and running or is that part of the RT installation exer= cise?    
 





From: David L. Willson <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
= To: sfs@thegeek.nu; CLUE's mailing list <clue@c= luedenver.org>; BLUG <lug@lug.boulder.co.us>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:42 PM
= Subject: [clue] SFS prese= nts: Build your own RT server with Troy Ridgley

<= div style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0,= 0, 0);">Do you have need for a ticket-tracking server for your help-desk o= r support team? Or, does the one you have suck, and you want to try somethi= ng else?

RT (Request Tracker) is a Free issue-tracking system that h= as a strong reputation built over many years. You may find it's exactly wha= t you're looking for.

My Software Freedom School is proud to present= Troy Ridgley leading an RT Installfest. Come build your own RT server with= us.

When:
    Saturday, 4/27, 10AM to 4PM
Where:    The SFS underground learning center

We hav= e limited space, and this is the first time running an event here, so we're= only going to take the first 10 RSVP's.

You'll need to bring your l= earning system running Virtualbox, Vmware, or a virtualization product of your choice that you can self-support, or ready = to install Virtualbox.
If you want to come learn with us, but you don't = an appropriate system, RSVP anyway and we'll try to scrounge up a loaner fo= r you. In that case, please bring a big USB stick, so you can take your RT = server home.

SFS classes are a free gift to you, but we gratefully r= eceive contributions of time, talent, and treasure when you're so moved. 
--
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE = Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This i= s a good time for a r3VOLution.


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--=_1b030a5d-4c35-4675-9d66-fdda6ab15918-- From anselmi@anselmi.us Sat Apr 13 04:07:02 2013 From: anselmi@anselmi.us (David L. Anselmi) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:07:02 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Teaching girls. Message-ID: <5168CBD6.1070005@anselmi.us> I ran across this video yesterday. http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/Educating_girls_about_FOSS_with_FOSS.mp4 Perhaps it is inspiring. (My usual reaction to the "not enough" women in X is, "duh, they aren't interested in that". It's certainly true of most women I know. I'm sure that doesn't account for everyone but I wonder what percentage of CIOs would be women in a perfect world.) Dave From will.sterling@gmail.com Sat Apr 13 05:54:08 2013 From: will.sterling@gmail.com (will.sterling@gmail.com) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:54:08 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Teaching girls. In-Reply-To: <5168CBD6.1070005@anselmi.us> References: <5168CBD6.1070005@anselmi.us> Message-ID: <47958CF7-1EC5-4B95-AF11-41347A7995BC@gmail.com> The question is why are they not interested? It may include nurture and not just nature. On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:07 PM, David L. Anselmi wrote: > I ran across this video yesterday. > > http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/Educating_girls_about_FOSS_with_FOSS.mp4 > > Perhaps it is inspiring. > > (My usual reaction to the "not enough" women in X is, "duh, they aren't interested in that". It's certainly true of most women I know. I'm sure that doesn't account for everyone but I wonder what percentage of CIOs would be women in a perfect world.) > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From obiwanmikenolte@gmail.com Sat Apr 13 08:28:36 2013 From: obiwanmikenolte@gmail.com (Mike Nolte) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:28:36 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Teaching girls. In-Reply-To: <47958CF7-1EC5-4B95-AF11-41347A7995BC@gmail.com> References: <5168CBD6.1070005@anselmi.us> <47958CF7-1EC5-4B95-AF11-41347A7995BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: --bcaec5523fe8bd8af604da38f705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think that's why these rare sheilas are trying to nurture them. I haven't seen any indications that Nature is involved at all. The founders of programs like this have asked, "Why should they be interested?" There haven't been many role models. There is a maxim for single women who were brave and desperate enough to resort to the Engineering school to find a single guy: "The odds are good, but the goods are odd." Narrow that thinking to the Computer department, and it's definitely a well-deserved reputation. Assuming that we get some sun and exercise, computer jobs pay well, and rare ladies like these continue their programs, women will eventually become more prevalent. It's too bad that it didn't happen for us, but on behalf of politically sensitive, future CS majors, I say, "Bring on the honies!" It will take some adjustments to have to stop using the women's restroom in our offices for storage, but we'll figure something out. Hopefully we'll resist the temptation to use buckets, pulleys, and activated charcoal. Yes, they're freaking awesome, but... Hell, maybe this is hopeless. If it does work out, I think it'll be a net gain. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM, will.sterling@gmail.com < will.sterling@gmail.com> wrote: > The question is why are they not interested? It may include nurture and > not just nature. > > On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:07 PM, David L. Anselmi wrote: > > > I ran across this video yesterday. > > > > > http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/Educating_girls_about_FOSS_with_FOSS.mp4 > > > > Perhaps it is inspiring. > > > > (My usual reaction to the "not enough" women in X is, "duh, they aren't > interested in that". It's certainly true of most women I know. I'm sure > that doesn't account for everyone but I wonder what percentage of CIOs > would be women in a perfect world.) > > > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > SFS mailing list > > SFS@thegeek.nu > > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --bcaec5523fe8bd8af604da38f705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think that's why these rare sheilas are trying to nu= rture them. =A0I haven't seen any indications that Nature is involved a= t all.

The founders of programs like this have asked, &q= uot;Why should they be interested?" =A0There haven't been many rol= e models. =A0There is a maxim for single women who were brave and desperate= enough to resort to the Engineering school to find a single guy: "The= odds are good, but the goods are odd." =A0Narrow that thinking to the= Computer department, and it's definitely a well-deserved reputation.

Assuming that we get some sun and exercise, compu= ter jobs pay well, and rare ladies like these continue their programs, wome= n will eventually become more prevalent. =A0It's too bad that it didn&#= 39;t happen for us, but on behalf of politically sensitive, future CS major= s, I say, "Bring on the honies!" =A0It will take some adjustments= to have to stop using the women's restroom in our offices for storage,= but we'll figure something out. =A0Hopefully we'll resist the temp= tation to use buckets, pulleys, and activated charcoal. =A0Yes, they're= freaking awesome, but... Hell, maybe this is hopeless. =A0If it does work = out, I think it'll be a net gain.


On Fri,= Apr 12, 2013 at 10:54 PM, will.= sterling@gmail.com <will.sterling@gmail.com> wrote= :
The question is why are they not interested?= =A0It may include nurture and not just nature.

On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:07 PM, David L. Anselmi <anselmi@anselmi.us> wrote:

> I ran across this video yesterday.
>
> http://mirror.linux.org.= au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/Educating_girls_about_FOSS_with_FOSS.mp4
>
> Perhaps it is inspiring.
>
> (My usual reaction to the "not enough" women in X is, "= duh, they aren't interested in that". =A0It's certainly true o= f most women I know. =A0I'm sure that doesn't account for everyone = but I wonder what percentage of CIOs would be women in a perfect world.) >
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> SFS mailing list
> SFS@thegeek.nu
> http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

_______________________________________________
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--bcaec5523fe8bd8af604da38f705-- From jeffrey.haemer@gmail.com Sat Apr 13 18:47:06 2013 From: jeffrey.haemer@gmail.com (Jeffrey S. Haemer) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 11:47:06 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Teaching girls. In-Reply-To: References: <5168CBD6.1070005@anselmi.us> <47958CF7-1EC5-4B95-AF11-41347A7995BC@gmail.com> Message-ID: --14dae9cdcaade5596d04da419c58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Mike Nolte wrot= e: > I haven't seen any indications that Nature is involved at all. > Where have you looked? What kinds of data would you consider indications? Not arguing, only trying to make sure I understand what you're saying. --=20 Jeffrey Haemer 720-837-8908 [cell], http://seejeffrun.blogspot.com [blog], http://www.youtube.com/user/goyishekop [vlog] *=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=99=D7=94=D7=99=D7=99=D7=98? =D7=93=D7=90=D7=A1 =D7= =90=D7=99=D7=96 =D7=99=D7=90=D6=B7=D7=A0=D7=92 =D7=93=D7=99=D7=A0=D7=A2=D7= =9F =D7=95=D7=95=D7=90=D6=B8=D7=A8=D7=98.* --14dae9cdcaade5596d04da419c58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Mike Nolte <obiw= anmikenolte@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
I haven't seen any indications that N= ature is involved at all.

Where have you looked? What kinds of data= would you consider indications?=C2=A0

Not arguing, only trying to make sure I understand what = you're saying.

--
Jeffrey Haemer <jeffrey.haemer@gmail.com>
720-837-8908 [cell],=C2=A0= http://= seejeffrun.blogspot.com [blog],
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--14dae9cdcaade5596d04da419c58-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Thu Apr 18 23:46:23 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Status for week ending 2013-04-13 In-Reply-To: <1ecc204c-b918-4236-8327-db3db6c35c08@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --=_973e19ca-fdd7-46a9-9896-70afbdaa9a3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heather and I worked toge ther on last week 's status email. This week, I'll try to get it out closer to Saturday evening (which is when I review the week). Hello fellow Freedom lovers! This is David's wife, Heather. Some of you may have heard David say in one of his many classes, something along the lines of ... " Classes will be "free as in speech" but please give a gift of treasure, talent, and/or time. And if you're not able, please take what you need." And with that, I'd like to share with you how we've spent our treasure, talent, and time over this past week. TREASURE : One of David's consulting customers paid a bill, so we are investing another $800 in SFS. This is money that can be spent on gear and things and a good start toward our next arbitrary funding goal of $10K. If you want to throw some money in the pot, you can do so directly at any of the classes, or you can PayPal it to Dav id at DLWillson@The Geek.NU with an appropriate note. TIME: We spent a great deal of time on/with the family which didn't allot for much time to spare for SFS... David is trying to find time to start a blog so he will have a place to pontificate, and a website so folks curious about us have a place to land and learn whatever there is to be known. (little at present, but it will grow) TALENT (AND CALL TO ACTION!): The Request Tracker class on April 27th is in serious jeopardy. At present, we only have one learner and his preferred stack is pretty unusual. If we don't get at least a few more, the class will have to be canceled! Do you have an interest in RT? How about JIRA? Do you have another idea that might fill up better? I'm interested in offering sessions that will attract at least 6 learners. To build on the idea from last week... a GEEKEND in the mountains~ (from David) " I look at the Ford shuttle buses on the highway as I drive to work and I picture them lettered with "Software Freedom ... something ... Sojourners? Sabbatical?" How about "Software Freedom School-bus"? I picture them loaded with learners, heading off into the mountains for a Linux immersion geek-end. "I think seats on that bus should cost around $1000 each, or $1200 each, with one seat reserved for a particularly avid pupil who has passion, but not the means to pay for a seat. What do you think? " As we are building our dream, Software Freedom School, I want to thank each of you for your support and for allowing me to be a part of such a wonderful group of people. May we all continue to be a community connected by our heads (geek), hearts (passion for freedom), and hands (teaching the world about free software). Here's to free as in FREEDOM! -- Heather L. Willson Loving and supportive wife of David L. Willson This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_973e19ca-fdd7-46a9-9896-70afbdaa9a3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >
Heather and I worked together on last week's status email. This week, I'll try to get it out closer to Saturd= ay evening (which is when I review the week).


Hello= fellow Freedom lovers!

This is David's wife, Heather.  Some of= you may have heard David say in one of his many classes, something along t= he lines of ... "Classes will be "free as in speech" but please give = a gift of treasure, talent, and/or time.  And if you're not abl= e, please take what you need."  And with that, I'd like to share with = you how we've spent our treasure, talent, and time over this past week.
=

TREASURE:  One of David's consul= ting customers paid a bill, so we are investing another $800 in SFS.  = This is money that can be spent on gear and things and a good start toward = our next arbitrary funding goal of $10K. If you want to throw some money in= the pot, you can do so directly at any of the classes, or you can PayPal i= t to David at DLWillson@TheGeek.NU= with an appropriate note.

TIME: We spent a great deal= of time on/with the family which didn't allot for much time to spare for S= FS... David is trying to find time to start a blog so he will have a place = to pontificate, and a website so folks curious about us have a place to lan= d and learn whatever there is to be known. (little at present, but it will = grow)

TALENT (AND CALL TO ACTION!): The Request Tracker class= on April 27th is in serious jeopardy. At present, we only have one = learner and his preferred stack is pretty unusual. If we don't get at least= a few more, the class will have to be canceled!

Do you have an i= nterest in RT? How about JIRA? Do you have another idea that might fill up = better? I'm interested in offering sessions that will attract at least 6 le= arners.

To build on the idea from last week... a GEEKEND in the = mountains~
(from= David)

= "I look at th= e Ford shuttle buses on the highway as I drive to work and I picture them lettered with "Software Freedom ... something ... Sojourners? Sabbatical?" How about "Software Freedom School-bus"? I picture them loaded= with learners, heading off into the mountains for a Linux immersion geek-end.

"I think seats on that bus should cost around $10= 00 each, or $1200 each, with one seat reserved for a particularly avid pupi= l who has passion, but not the means to pay for a seat. What do you think?"=
As w= e are building our dream, Software Freedom School, I want to thank each of = you for your support and for allowing me to be a part of such a wonderful g= roup of people.  May we all continue to be a community connected by ou= r heads (geek), hearts (passion for freedom), and hands (teaching the world= about free software).

Here's to free as in FREEDOM! 

<= /span>--
Heather L. Willson
Loving and supportive wife of David L. Wi= llson
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

<= /font>
--=_973e19ca-fdd7-46a9-9896-70afbdaa9a3a-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Tue Apr 23 19:06:13 2013 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:06:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] CANCELED: SFS: BYO RT Server Message-ID: <479eebef-4180-4f31-8dd4-336e01bbb1f4@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_f15b84f9-851a-4634-955d-84d6eb54f7d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to too few RSVPs (lack of interest), the "Build Your Own RT Server" session is off. I'm still going to open the comfy room from 3PM to 5PM, so come over and hang out, and we'll work out what SFS is all about, and how to make it work, but I'm not going to try to do a class with 1 instructor, 2 assistants, and 1 students. The Comfy Room / SFS HQ / Underground Learning Center 4237 W Grand Ave Denver, CO 80123 (720) 333-LANS(5267 ) SFS probably stands for Software Freedom School. If you want to read or join the discussion about what SFS is doing, go here: http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_f15b84f9-851a-4634-955d-84d6eb54f7d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Due to too few RSVPs (lack of interest), the "Build Your Own RT Serv= er" session is off.

I'm still going to open the comfy room from 3PM = to 5PM, so come over and hang out, and we'll work out what SFS is all about= , and how to make it work, but I'm not going to try to do a class with 1 in= structor, 2 assistants, and 1 students.

The Comfy Room / SFS HQ / Un= derground Learning Center
4237 W Grand Ave
Denver, CO 80123
(720) = 333-LANS(5267)

SFS probably stands for Software Freedom School.
<= br>If you want to read or join the discussion about what SFS is doing, go h= ere:
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

--
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RH= CE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

Thi= s is a good time for a r3VOLution.

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BEGIN:VALARM ACTION:DISPLAY TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT60M DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --=_f5a5173c-5b22-4275-8649-5e0e7aa1af9b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Apr 24 04:04:49 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:04:49 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] R&A: Status for the week ending 4/20 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <21b0bd8c-cdf6-4e46-b9e4-c41f1b69bf0b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> My big question: ---------------- What if "Intro to Whatever" type classes were free and open to the public, gift classes for gift contribs, and higher-level classes were paid, and students had the option of paying in time, talent, or treasure? Time = help with things that need to be done, like art and web-pages. Talent = help write class materials. Treasure = money. The teaching materials we develop will be creative commons, share-alike licensed. Free as in speech. In short, the materials are always Free ( as in Freedom, Free Speech, Free Ideas, Free Markets ), but the higher-level classes aren't free ( as in free lunch ). In yet other words, you can't get the materials "for free", but once you've taken a class with us, the materials are yours, and you are Free to use them as you see fit, even to make your own class, if you like. Your thoughts? What I've been doing this week: ------------------------------- I did not celebrate 4/20 in the recommended way. I may have had a little Scotch whiskey, if I recall correctly. I've changed the list-setting to "reply to list" so that, hopefully, we'll be more conversational. Heather and I added ~another~ few hundred to the funding, and now we're going to take a short rest from contributing treasure and contribute time and talent, instead. I wrote the blurb for the "Introduction to Linux" class at DenHac on Star Wars Day, so that should have a MeetUp event page soon that you can send your mom and dad to, so they can finally start learning Linux. I joined DenHac! So, we have access to all their resources, which we mostly had before, but now we're giving to them regularly, so they can keep the lights on, and I'm not harming my karma. Linux Pro Immersion Class Planning: ----------------------------------- I'm looking forward to the getaway geek-end, the field trip, the 3-day Linux Pro Immersion Class (LPIC-1 exam prep weekend)... I'd like to get some of your thoughts and feelings on it. Here are mine: • I think it's an awesome idea. I think the students will learn a lot and enjoy the fresh air and the hiatus from "real life". • I don't want to fund this single-handedly. Just cabin rental and food will be expensive. I'd like this project to break even, at least. • I think the fastest we can get the class put together and students enrolled is July. What are your thoughts? In particular: Do you know anyone that probably wants this class? Does July work? Do you want to help make this class happen? Pi Lab for school age kids idea: -------------------------------- Another project idea I'm baking is that I want to get up a dozen Raspberry Pi setups and do an on-site Saturday Pi Lab for a middle or high-school. Thoughts on that? Upcoming events: ---------------- 4/27 - Come hang out at the Willsons' 5/4 - Hands-on Intro to Linux at DenHac 6/1 - Hands-on Intro to Puppet at DenHac later in June - Dan Kulinski - KVM July? - Geek Getaway - Linux Immersion - Three long days in the Rocky Mountains, learning Linux, and Heather's cooking. This is gonna be good. What else? -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE CCHA Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Apr 24 04:43:02 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Status for the week ending 4/20 In-Reply-To: <21b0bd8c-cdf6-4e46-b9e4-c41f1b69bf0b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: One quick clarification on license of training materials: Any training materials we make will be CC BY-SA. Here's a full text of that license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/ And now, a toast to freedom, whether it's expressed in software, or training materials, or whatever. Here's to the plenty mentality, to the idea that we're all in this together, and that we should, therefore, work together enthusiastically for the good of all, piling strength upon strength. And then to sleep. :-) -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > My big question: > ---------------- > > What if "Intro to Whatever" type classes were free and open to the > public, gift classes for gift contribs, and higher-level classes > were paid, and students had the option of paying in time, talent, or > treasure? Time = help with things that need to be done, like art and > web-pages. Talent = help write class materials. Treasure = money. > > The teaching materials we develop will be creative commons, > share-alike licensed. Free as in speech. > > In short, the materials are always Free ( as in Freedom, Free Speech, > Free Ideas, Free Markets ), but the higher-level classes aren't free > ( as in free lunch ). In yet other words, you can't get the > materials "for free", but once you've taken a class with us, the > materials are yours, and you are Free to use them as you see fit, > even to make your own class, if you like. > > Your thoughts? > > > What I've been doing this week: > ------------------------------- > > I did not celebrate 4/20 in the recommended way. I may have had a > little Scotch whiskey, if I recall correctly. > > I've changed the list-setting to "reply to list" so that, hopefully, > we'll be more conversational. > > Heather and I added ~another~ few hundred to the funding, and now > we're going to take a short rest from contributing treasure and > contribute time and talent, instead. > > I wrote the blurb for the "Introduction to Linux" class at DenHac on > Star Wars Day, so that should have a MeetUp event page soon that you > can send your mom and dad to, so they can finally start learning > Linux. > > I joined DenHac! So, we have access to all their resources, which we > mostly had before, but now we're giving to them regularly, so they > can keep the lights on, and I'm not harming my karma. > > > Linux Pro Immersion Class Planning: > ----------------------------------- > > I'm looking forward to the getaway geek-end, the field trip, the > 3-day Linux Pro Immersion Class (LPIC-1 exam prep weekend)... I'd > like to get some of your thoughts and feelings on it. > > Here are mine: > > • I think it's an awesome idea. I think the students will learn a > lot and enjoy the fresh air and the hiatus from "real life". > • I don't want to fund this single-handedly. Just cabin rental > and food will be expensive. I'd like this project to break even, > at least. > • I think the fastest we can get the class put together and > students enrolled is July. > > What are your thoughts? In particular: Do you know anyone that > probably wants this class? Does July work? Do you want to help make > this class happen? > > > Pi Lab for school age kids idea: > -------------------------------- > > Another project idea I'm baking is that I want to get up a dozen > Raspberry Pi setups and do an on-site Saturday Pi Lab for a middle > or high-school. > > Thoughts on that? > > > Upcoming events: > ---------------- > 4/27 - Come hang out at the Willsons' > 5/4 - Hands-on Intro to Linux at DenHac > 6/1 - Hands-on Intro to Puppet at DenHac > later in June - Dan Kulinski - KVM > July? - Geek Getaway - Linux Immersion - Three long days in the Rocky > Mountains, learning Linux, and Heather's cooking. This is gonna be > good. > > > What else? > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE CCHA Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Apr 26 18:32:30 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups In-Reply-To: <005201ce429d$bf3d08f0$3db71ad0$@scsdenver.com> Message-ID: <92db4400-6fb8-4d8c-b279-85df9b0bf892@zimbra.thegeek.nu> This WILL happen, but I'm not yet sure whether I can put it together fast enough to make it run in July. If it doesn't lose money, it will happen again, and again and again, until everyone knows Linux. Muhaha. If there's enough interest, I'd like to extend the model to other topics, like PostgreSQL. I'm considering a per-seat price around $1600 for the weekend, with materials, lodging, and food included. I'm not sure about equipment (laptops) yet. Could be BYOB or student choice or equipment provided. Does that seem like a relative bargain? I hope so, because it does to me, and I'm not sure if it's viable if I take it much lower. Can I get your opinion on something? Should the first boot camp target both exams of LPIC-1, or just the first one? It's harder to target both exams with only 3 days, but still possible. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > How much would you like to charge for the 3 day Boot Camp and how > likely do you think it'll happen? > > > Best regards, > > Larry Sawyer > IT Consultant/Owner > SCSDenver.com, LLC. > office: (303) 751-8000 > web: www.SCSDenver.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: clue-bounces@cluedenver.org > [mailto:clue-bounces@cluedenver.org] On Behalf Of David L. Willson > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:52 AM > To: CLUE's mailing list > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > Does that satisfy your request, or are you looking for something > else? > > If it doesn't, I'm happy to help you put together the learning > situation that suits you best. > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > I'm putting together an LPIC class for July, maybe August. It will > > be > > a geek-end, including Friday, in the mountains. > > > > It will be fun, but it won't be free. > > > > -- > > David L. Willson > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > > ----- Itttech Instructor wrote: > > > Id like to restart this discussion, is anyone interested in > > > starting > > > a LPIC study group > > > > > > Pietto Vasco > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Raymond DeRoo > > > To: David L. Willson > > > Cc: CLUE's mailing list > > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > > > > > > > > > > > David: > > > > > > I'd like to try a 3x12 LPIC-1 immersion weekend sometime. > > > Someplace > > > near Golden. Like a three-day lock-in and study. Does that sound > > > interesting to anyone? > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if this comes to pass, I would try to come back and > > > terrorize^Wattend. Heck I would even willing to help with a few > > > sections/chapters. :) > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Raymond > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org For information, account > > > preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > _______________________________________________ > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org For information, account > > preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > _______________________________________________ > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > _______________________________________________ > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Apr 26 19:19:04 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary Romero) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:19:04 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups In-Reply-To: <92db4400-6fb8-4d8c-b279-85df9b0bf892@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <005201ce429d$bf3d08f0$3db71ad0$@scsdenver.com> <92db4400-6fb8-4d8c-b279-85df9b0bf892@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --047d7b5d49cef3de4c04db47913b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'd pay $1600 for both tests. I also think Student Choice would be best. Gar Romero www.projectromero.com On Apr 26, 2013 11:32 AM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > This WILL happen, but I'm not yet sure whether I can put it together fast > enough to make it run in July. > > If it doesn't lose money, it will happen again, and again and again, until > everyone knows Linux. Muhaha. If there's enough interest, I'd like to > extend the model to other topics, like PostgreSQL. > > I'm considering a per-seat price around $1600 for the weekend, with > materials, lodging, and food included. > > I'm not sure about equipment (laptops) yet. Could be BYOB or student > choice or equipment provided. > > Does that seem like a relative bargain? I hope so, because it does to me, > and I'm not sure if it's viable if I take it much lower. > > Can I get your opinion on something? > > Should the first boot camp target both exams of LPIC-1, or just the first > one? It's harder to target both exams with only 3 days, but still possible. > > -- > David L. Willson > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > How much would you like to charge for the 3 day Boot Camp and how > > likely do you think it'll happen? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Larry Sawyer > > IT Consultant/Owner > > SCSDenver.com, LLC. > > office: (303) 751-8000 > > web: www.SCSDenver.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: clue-bounces@cluedenver.org > > [mailto:clue-bounces@cluedenver.org] On Behalf Of David L. Willson > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:52 AM > > To: CLUE's mailing list > > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > > > Does that satisfy your request, or are you looking for something > > else? > > > > If it doesn't, I'm happy to help you put together the learning > > situation that suits you best. > > > > -- > > David L. Willson > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > I'm putting together an LPIC class for July, maybe August. It will > > > be > > > a geek-end, including Friday, in the mountains. > > > > > > It will be fun, but it won't be free. > > > > > > -- > > > David L. Willson > > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast > > > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > > > > ----- Itttech Instructor wrote: > > > > Id like to restart this discussion, is anyone interested in > > > > starting > > > > a LPIC study group > > > > > > > > Pietto Vasco > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Raymond DeRoo > > > > To: David L. Willson > > > > Cc: CLUE's mailing list > > > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:10 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David: > > > > > > > > I'd like to try a 3x12 LPIC-1 immersion weekend sometime. > > > > Someplace > > > > near Golden. Like a three-day lock-in and study. Does that sound > > > > interesting to anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if this comes to pass, I would try to come back and > > > > terrorize^Wattend. Heck I would even willing to help with a few > > > > sections/chapters. :) > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Raymond > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org For information, account > > > > preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org For information, account > > > preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > _______________________________________________ > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > > _______________________________________________ > clue mailing list: clue@cluedenver.org > For information, account preferences, or to unsubscribe see: > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > --047d7b5d49cef3de4c04db47913b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'd pay $1600 for both tests. I also think Student Choic= e would be best.

Gar Romero
www.projectromero.com

On Apr 26, 2013 11:32 AM, "David L. Willson= " <DLWillson@thegeek.nu= > wrote:
This WILL happen, but I'm not yet sure whether I can put it together fa= st enough to make it run in July.

If it doesn't lose money, it will happen again, and again and again, un= til everyone knows Linux. Muhaha. If there's enough interest, I'd l= ike to extend the model to other topics, like PostgreSQL.

I'm considering a per-seat price around $1600 for the weekend, with mat= erials, lodging, and food included.

I'm not sure about equipment (laptops) yet. Could be BYOB or student ch= oice or equipment provided.

Does that seem like a relative bargain? I hope so, because it does to me, a= nd I'm not sure if it's viable if I take it much lower.

Can I get your opinion on something?

Should the first boot camp target both exams of LPIC-1, or just the first o= ne? It's harder to target both exams with only 3 days, but still possib= le.

--
David L. Willson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

----- Original Message -----
> How much would you like to charge for the 3 day Boot Camp and how
> likely do you think it'll happen?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Larry Sawyer
> IT Consultant/Owner
> SCSDenver.com, LLC.
> office: =C2=A0 =C2=A0(303) 751-8000
> web: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 www.SCSDenver.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-bounces@clue= denver.org
> [mailto:clue-bounces@cl= uedenver.org] On Behalf Of David L. Willson
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:52 AM
> To: CLUE's mailing list
> Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups
>
> Does that satisfy your request, or are you looking for something
> else?
>
> If it doesn't, I'm happy to help you put together the learning=
> situation that suits you best.
>
> --
> David L. Willson
> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>
> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > I'm putting together an LPIC class for July, maybe August. It= will
> > be
> > a geek-end, including Friday, in the mountains.
> >
> > It will be fun, but it won't be free.
> >
> > --
> > David L. Willson
> > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
> > RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu
> > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
> >
> > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> >
> > ----- Itttech Instructor <itttechinstructor@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Id like to restart this discussion, is anyone interested in<= br> > > > starting
> > > a LPIC study group
> > >
> > > Pietto Vasco
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Raymond DeRoo <= rderoo@deroo.net>
> > > To: David L. Willson <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
> > > Cc: CLUE's mailing list <clue@cluedenver.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 12:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [clue] Linux Study Groups
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David:
> > >
> > > I'd like to try a 3x12 LPIC-1 immersion weekend sometime= .
> > > Someplace
> > > near Golden. Like a three-day lock-in and study. Does that s= ound
> > > interesting to anyone?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Let me know if this comes to pass, I would try to come back = and
> > > terrorize^Wattend. Heck I would even willing to help with a = few
> > > sections/chapters. :)
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Raymond
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > clue mailing list: cl= ue@cluedenver.org For information, account
> > > preferences, or to unsubscribe see:
> > > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue
> > _______________________________________________
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> > preferences, or to unsubscribe see:
> > http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue
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> http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue
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--047d7b5d49cef3de4c04db47913b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Apr 27 20:21:29 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Troy R. Ridgley) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:21:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Google+ Page In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0c634c4a-7b19-4b01-b87d-fa3f0adf231b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_911c0f5f-84e1-44a5-9cf2-6d5d662ac693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! The SFS now has a G+ page: SFS G+ Please add it and softwarefreedomschool@gmail.com to your circles! We will be hosting a hangout today(around 4) in case some cannot make it over to the Willson's estate this afternoon. Cheers! Troy --=_911c0f5f-84e1-44a5-9cf2-6d5d662ac693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all!

The SFS now has a G+ page:

SFS G+

Please add it and softwarefreedomschool@gmail.com to your circles! We will be hosting a hangout today(around 4) in case some cannot make it over to the Willson's estate this afternoon.

Cheers!

Troy

--=_911c0f5f-84e1-44a5-9cf2-6d5d662ac693-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Apr 29 06:33:15 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] SFS at Denhac this Saturday Message-ID: <1a9a2528-aa25-4bcd-8412-d50089758d31@zimbra.thegeek.nu> A Gentle Hands-on Introduction to Linux If you know anyone that is still using proprietary operating systems, send them to Denhac this Saturday. http://www.meetup.com/denhac-hackerspace/events/115318442/ -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Apr 30 14:45:41 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Status this week 4/28 In-Reply-To: <0047178d-1de6-4568-ae30-50ade1fc530d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --=_62a4962e-8965-4e8a-9794-9f94ffef7d0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We've been meeting with people. The theme of the messages coming to me seems to be that we need to be legal and we need to have a plan if we'd like to make money. So, I'm going to continue to focus primarily on service, on changing the world, on shouting as coherently as I can about freedom and software, and hopefully, someone will "get it" and think something like, "I ought to buy that guy a pizza." But, as a background process, I'll continue to think about sustainability. If I can do the message ~and~ drive a decent car, well, that's OK, too. This Saturday, I'm teaching "AGHI2 Linux" at DenHac. AGHI2 is short for "A Gentle Hands-on Introduction to". Send your parents. It's time they learned Linux. There might be a strong message about software freedom, and about freedom in general, and about the importance of sharing. So, if you don't like my preaching, stay home, but send your parents, anyway. They always liked church. See you Saturday. -- David L. Willson Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_62a4962e-8965-4e8a-9794-9f94ffef7d0f Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >We've been meeting with people. The theme of the messages coming to me see= ms to be that we need to be legal and we need to have a plan if we'd like t= o make money.

So, I'm going to continue to focus primarily on servic= e, on changing the world, on shouting as coherently as I can about freedom = and software, and hopefully, someone will "get it" and think something like= , "I ought to buy that guy a pizza."

But, as a background process, I= 'll continue to think about sustainability. If I can do the message ~and~ d= rive a decent car, well, that's OK, too.

This Saturday, I'm teaching= "AGHI2 Linux" at DenHac.
AGHI2 is short for "A Gentle Hands-on Introdu= ction to".
Send your parents. It's time they learned Linux.

There= might be a strong message about software freedom, and about freedom in gen= eral, and about the importance of sharing. So, if you don't like my preachi= ng, stay home, but send your parents, anyway. They always liked church.
=
See you Saturday.

--
David L. W= illson
Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast
RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 U= buntu
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLut= ion.

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