From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 10:39:02 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 03:39:02 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups Message-ID: ----_com.android.email_508134159644540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 VGhpcyB3ZWVrZW5kIGlzIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBvZiBmaXZlIGZvciB0aGUgTFBJLTEwMiBzdHVkeSBn cm91cHMuIERvbid0IGZvcmdldCB0byBpbnZpdGUgeW91ciBmcmllbmRzLiBTZWUgeW91IFNhdHVy ZGF5LCBvciBTdW5kYXkuCgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcgTFRFIFNt YXJ0cGhvbmU= ----_com.android.email_508134159644540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSA+PGRpdj5UaGlzIHdlZWtlbmQgaXMg dGhlIGZpcnN0IG9mIGZpdmUgZm9yIHRoZSBMUEktMTAyIHN0dWR5IGdyb3Vwcy4gRG9uJ3QgZm9y Z2V0IHRvIGludml0ZSB5b3VyIGZyaWVuZHMuIFNlZSB5b3UgU2F0dXJkYXksIG9yIFN1bmRheS48 L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxkaXYgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQt c2l6ZTo3NSU7Y29sb3I6IzU3NTc1NyI+U2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcg TFRFIFNtYXJ0cGhvbmU8L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== ----_com.android.email_508134159644540-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 15:25:13 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Jb) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 08:25:13 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74721E0D-E667-4A16-A911-5A5CCC5E4001@gmail.com> --Apple-Mail-F0654AF2-6341-46D7-BFFF-98FD38B81354 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have the isbn= number for the text?=20 Thanks.=20 JB=20 Sent from my mobile device > On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" wrot= e: >=20 > This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't forg= et to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday. >=20 >=20 > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone --Apple-Mail-F0654AF2-6341-46D7-BFFF-98FD38B81354 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have the isbn number for the text?

Thanks.

JB

Sent from my mobile device

On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't forget to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

--Apple-Mail-F0654AF2-6341-46D7-BFFF-98FD38B81354-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 15:29:15 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:29:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: <74721E0D-E667-4A16-A911-5A5CCC5E4001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9d922cfc-25ec-4fa9-9b9f-5bac2d5e9bb8@zimbra.thegeek.nu> I'll have the details for the Saturday Morning class out by this afternoon. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jb" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: "David Willson" Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:25:13 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have the isbn number for the text? Thanks. JB Sent from my mobile device On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't forget to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 15:42:39 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: <9d922cfc-25ec-4fa9-9b9f-5bac2d5e9bb8@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: Can I get a quick count, how many people are planning on attending the Saturday Morning Study Group physically? I have two possible places and one is bigger than the other. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: "David Willson" Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:29:15 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups I'll have the details for the Saturday Morning class out by this afternoon. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jb" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: "David Willson" Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:25:13 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have the isbn number for the text? Thanks. JB Sent from my mobile device On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't forget to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 16:04:26 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:04:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3f2e31f9-cd18-4b56-b8b9-45de21f83aa7@zimbra.thegeek.nu> I sure hope someone forwards the notice to CLUE, that someone else forwards to BLUG, etc. And now, I promise not to hope that out loud again, about this event series. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Can I get a quick count, how many people are planning on attending > the Saturday Morning Study Group physically? > > I have two possible places and one is bigger than the other. > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; > and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Cc: "David Willson" > Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:29:15 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups > > I'll have the details for the Saturday Morning class out by this > afternoon. > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; > and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jb" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Cc: "David Willson" > Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:25:13 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups > > > Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have > the isbn number for the text? > Thanks. > JB > > Sent from my mobile device > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > > wrote: > > > > > > This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't > forget to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday. > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 16:10:05 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Jb) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 09:10:05 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54C3BDF2-80D2-4AF6-9A1B-BAF5ED3055FE@gmail.com> I would like to express my interest. Jon Sent from my mobile device > On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:42 AM, "Gary A. Romero" wrote: > > Can I get a quick count, how many people are planning on attending the Saturday Morning Study Group physically? > > I have two possible places and one is bigger than the other. > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Cc: "David Willson" > Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:29:15 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups > > I'll have the details for the Saturday Morning class out by this afternoon. > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jb" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Cc: "David Willson" > Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:25:13 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] Reminder: LPI-102 Study Groups > > > Is there a location for the Saturday am group yet? Also do you have the isbn number for the text? > Thanks. > JB > > Sent from my mobile device > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:39 AM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: > > > > > > This weekend is the first of five for the LPI-102 study groups. Don't forget to invite your friends. See you Saturday, or Sunday. > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 19:44:34 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] JOB: Referrals Needed for Linux System Admins In-Reply-To: <1380652380.524b155c3a9e0@swift.generated> Message-ID: <0fa4acef-5734-4541-bc0c-661f03dedcc1@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_0a555411-7576-44f7-8151-b0e7ca9ab5d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See below. Don't reply to me, reply to Shelley. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > Huxley.com > > Hi David, > Industry: Hedge Fund > Location: New York City > Comp: 100-130k > I am looking to fill a handful of Linux System Administrator and > Linux Engineer roles at Top Hedge Funds in NYC. > My clients are extremely selective so I am relying on you to help me > find strong Junior candidates (2-5 years) with exceptionally strong > Linux knowledge. This person will be dealing with hardware for a > large portion of the role as well. > If you know anyone who could be a good fit, please provide their > contact information and/or forward this to them and copy me in. > Thanks, > > Shelley Leeman > Banking Technology Division > Huxley Associates > +1 212 707 8112 > s.leeman@huxley.com > http://www.huxley.com > Click here to update your CV online. > Your feedback is important and it will help us to know how we can > provide the best service possible. > Please click here to provide us with your feedback. > To manage the types of communication you receive from Huxley > Associates or to unsubscribe click here > > > huxley.com > > You can view our privacy statement at > http://www.huxley.com/en/page/privacy_policy . > This electronic transmission is confidential and intended solely for > the addressee(s). If you are not an intended addressee, you must not > disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon this > transmission. 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See below. Don't reply to me, reply to Shelley.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Hi David,

Industry: Hedge Fund
Location: New York City
Comp: 100-130k

I am looking to fill a handful of Linux System Administrator and Linux Engineer roles at Top Hedge Funds in NYC.

My clients are extremely selective so I am relying on you to help me find strong Junior candidates (2-5 years) with exceptionally strong Linux knowledge. This person will be dealing with hardware for a large portion of the role as well.

If you know anyone who could be a good fit, please provide their contact information and/or forward this to them and copy me in.

Thanks,

Shelley Leeman
Banking Technology Division
Huxley Associates
+1 212 707 8112
s.leeman@huxley.com
http://www.huxley.com

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--=_0a555411-7576-44f7-8151-b0e7ca9ab5d0-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 19:53:12 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:53:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Job: Referrals Needed for Linux System Admins In-Reply-To: <6AEEF1BD8FFB4B449DA2A5E0C718F83D0F19BCAA@cuk5-ex-2> Message-ID: <1837ece6-e5cc-4f1c-913e-1170d02c5698@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_988ff4ed-ab40-4cad-a99c-a365dfb36ab0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a must relocate. Sorry for the noise, unless you actually want to live in NYC, in which case you're welcome. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Forwarded Message ----- > No, this person needs to go into the office every day. > Shelley Leeman > Banking Technology, IT Infrastructure and Database > Recruitment Consultant Huxley Associates > ------------------------------------------------ > T: +1 212 707 8112 > E: s.leeman@huxley.com > Internal: 225 7157 > ------------------------------------------------ > www.huxley.com Join my LinkedIn network > From: David L. Willson [mailto:DLWillson@TheGeek.NU] > Sent: 01 October 2013 14:45 > To: Leeman, Shelley > Subject: Re: Referrals Needed for Linux System Admins > Shelley, > Is this a relocate or work remotely? > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > > > > > > > Huxley.com > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > Industry: Hedge Fund > > > Location: New York City > > > Comp: 100-130k > > > I am looking to fill a handful of Linux System Administrator and > > Linux Engineer roles at Top Hedge Funds in NYC. > > > My clients are extremely selective so I am relying on you to help > > me > > find strong Junior candidates (2-5 years) with exceptionally strong > > Linux knowledge. This person will be dealing with hardware for a > > large portion of the role as well. > > > If you know anyone who could be a good fit, please provide their > > contact information and/or forward this to them and copy me in. > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Shelley Leeman > > > Banking Technology Division > > > Huxley Associates > > > +1 212 707 8112 > > > s.leeman@huxley.com > > > http://www.huxley.com > > > Click here to update your CV online. > > > Your feedback is important and it will help us to know how we can > > provide the best service possible. > > > Please click here to provide us with your feedback. > > > To manage the types of communication you receive from Huxley > > Associates or to unsubscribe click here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > huxley.com > > > > > > You can view our privacy statement at > > http://www.huxley.com/en/page/privacy_policy . > > > This electronic transmission is confidential and intended solely > > for > > the addressee(s). If you are not an intended addressee, you must > > not > > disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon this > > transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, > > please notify Huxley, > > http://www.huxley.com/en/page/registration_details > > You can view our privacy statement at > http://www.huxley.com/en/page/privacy_policy . > This electronic transmission is confidential and intended solely for > the addressee(s). If you are not an intended addressee, you must not > disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon this > transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, > please notify Huxley, > http://www.huxley.com/en/page/registration_details --=_988ff4ed-ab40-4cad-a99c-a365dfb36ab0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

It's a must relocate. Sorry for the noise, unless you actually want to live in NYC, in which case you're welcome.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

No, this person needs to go into the office every day.

Shelley Leeman
Banking Technology, IT Infrastructure and Database

Recruitment Consultant Huxley Associates

------------------------------------------------
T: +1 212 707 8112
E: s.leeman@huxley.com
Internal: 225 7157
------------------------------------------------
www.huxley.com Join my LinkedIn network

From: David L. Willson [mailto:DLWillson@TheGeek.NU]
Sent: 01 October 2013 14:45
To: Leeman, Shelley
Subject: Re: Referrals Needed for Linux System Admins

Shelley,

Is this a relocate or work remotely?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Hi David,

Industry: Hedge Fund
Location: New York City
Comp: 100-130k

I am looking to fill a handful of Linux System Administrator and Linux Engineer roles at Top Hedge Funds in NYC.

My clients are extremely selective so I am relying on you to help me find strong Junior candidates (2-5 years) with exceptionally strong Linux knowledge. This person will be dealing with hardware for a large portion of the role as well.

If you know anyone who could be a good fit, please provide their contact information and/or forward this to them and copy me in.

Thanks,

Shelley Leeman
Banking Technology Division
Huxley Associates
+1 212 707 8112
s.leeman@huxley.com
http://www.huxley.com

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--=_988ff4ed-ab40-4cad-a99c-a365dfb36ab0-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 1 22:52:40 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:52:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <75d2aa55-de73-45f8-9abf-6af4cc848add@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_7f40c0ca-5f5a-4ea9-a288-2f0cf8275158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon --=_7f40c0ca-5f5a-4ea9-a288-2f0cf8275158 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= > All,

The first LPIC 102 = Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be= covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The= topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of ques= tions on this topic):

Objective	Description	Weight	Book Chapters
106.1	Install and configure x11	2	6
106.2	Setup a Display manager	2	6
106.3	Accessibility	1	6
107.3	Localization and Internationalization	3	6
108.4	Manage Printers and Printing	2	6

I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located = off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Missi= ssippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't s= ecured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be= broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend.= BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a spe= cific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of= the actual study group. If you plan = on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how m= any people will be there.

I would rec= ommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with= a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11.

<= br>If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with = me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my ce= llphone at (303) 895-6696

Thanks,
----------------------------
Gary (= Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is = very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brand= on

--=_7f40c0ca-5f5a-4ea9-a288-2f0cf8275158-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 3 04:26:08 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 21:26:08 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Watch "FreedomBox" on YouTube Message-ID: <7644gycwqvdb5poyo0urmejs.1380770768089@email.android.com> ----_com.android.email_1145738683723200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SSBwaWNrZWQgdGhpcyB1cCBmcm9tIHNvbWV0aGluZyBBbnNlbG1pIHNlbnQgdG8gQ0xVRS4gRXhj ZWxsZW50IHN0dXBoLiBUaGUgTm92ZW5hIGlzIHBhcnRpY3VsYXJseSBleGNpdGluZy4KCmh0dHBz Oi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9ZTFMcFlYMnpWWWcKCgoKU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZl cml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcgTFRFIFNtYXJ0cGhvbmU= ----_com.android.email_1145738683723200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSA+PGRpdj5JIHBpY2tlZCB0aGlzIHVw IGZyb20gc29tZXRoaW5nIEFuc2VsbWkgc2VudCB0byBDTFVFLiBFeGNlbGxlbnQgc3R1cGguIFRo ZSBOb3ZlbmEgaXMgcGFydGljdWxhcmx5IGV4Y2l0aW5nLjwvZGl2PjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2Pmh0 dHBzOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9ZTFMcFlYMnpWWWc8ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48 ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PjxkaXYgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtc2l6ZTo3 NSU7Y29sb3I6IzU3NTc1NyI+U2VudCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcgTFRFIFNt YXJ0cGhvbmU8L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj48L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== ----_com.android.email_1145738683723200-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 3 15:23:54 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 08:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: <75d2aa55-de73-45f8-9abf-6af4cc848add@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <0584f1c6-faca-4d83-868c-211e16315360@zimbra.thegeek.nu> All, The Location for the Saturday morning Study Group has been confirmed to be at DenHac. The address is 975 E 58th Ave, Unit N, Denver, CO (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=975+E+58th+Ave%2C+Unit+N%2C+Denver%2C+CO). We'll also be broadcasting online in a Big Blue Button Demo Room at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org/ Again, please feel free to email or call me directly if you have any questions. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:52:40 PM Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 5 16:49:24 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 09:49:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: <0584f1c6-faca-4d83-868c-211e16315360@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: We switched over to google hangouts as BBB was crashing during screen share. If you add me to your G+ circles I'll get you added to the hangout. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The Location for the Saturday morning Study Group has been confirmed to be at DenHac. The address is 975 E 58th Ave, Unit N, Denver, CO (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=975+E+58th+Ave%2C+Unit+N%2C+Denver%2C+CO). We'll also be broadcasting online in a Big Blue Button Demo Room at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org/ Again, please feel free to email or call me directly if you have any questions. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:52:40 PM Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 5 16:52:31 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 09:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Members] [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can find my G+ profile here: http://gplus.to/garheade ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: ironmantis7x@yahoo.com, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" , vxa777@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:49:24 AM Subject: Re: [Members] [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group We switched over to google hangouts as BBB was crashing during screen share. If you add me to your G+ circles I'll get you added to the hangout. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The Location for the Saturday morning Study Group has been confirmed to be at DenHac. The address is 975 E 58th Ave, Unit N, Denver, CO (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=975+E+58th+Ave%2C+Unit+N%2C+Denver%2C+CO). We'll also be broadcasting online in a Big Blue Button Demo Room at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org/ Again, please feel free to email or call me directly if you have any questions. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:52:40 PM Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ Members mailing list Members@box776.bluehost.com http://box776.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/members_denhac.org From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 5 17:32:56 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Troy R. Ridgley) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 10:32:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll go ahead and down the BBB server for now then. Just let me know if you want it back up. :) -Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:49:24 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group We switched over to google hangouts as BBB was crashing during screen share. If you add me to your G+ circles I'll get you added to the hangout. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The Location for the Saturday morning Study Group has been confirmed to be at DenHac. The address is 975 E 58th Ave, Unit N, Denver, CO (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=975+E+58th+Ave%2C+Unit+N%2C+Denver%2C+CO). We'll also be broadcasting online in a Big Blue Button Demo Room at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org/ Again, please feel free to email or call me directly if you have any questions. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:52:40 PM Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 5 18:04:48 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 11:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9e6cc945-7a3a-458c-bd59-7eaf4954fc4d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Thanks Troy! ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy R. Ridgley" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 10:32:56 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group I'll go ahead and down the BBB server for now then. Just let me know if you want it back up. :) -Troy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:49:24 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group We switched over to google hangouts as BBB was crashing during screen share. If you add me to your G+ circles I'll get you added to the hangout. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu, "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The Location for the Saturday morning Study Group has been confirmed to be at DenHac. The address is 975 E 58th Ave, Unit N, Denver, CO (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=975+E+58th+Ave%2C+Unit+N%2C+Denver%2C+CO). We'll also be broadcasting online in a Big Blue Button Demo Room at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org/ Again, please feel free to email or call me directly if you have any questions. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Cc: vxa777@yahoo.com, ironmantis7x@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:52:40 PM Subject: [SFS] Saturday Morning Study Group All, The first LPIC 102 Study Group will take place this Saturday, October 5th at 9:00 am. We'll be covering the content of Chapter 6 from the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide. The topics of the books are listed below along with the weight (number of questions on this topic): Objective Description Weight Book Chapters 106.1 Install and configure x11 2 6 106.2 Setup a Display manager 2 6 106.3 Accessibility 1 6 107.3 Localization and Internationalization 3 6 108.4 Manage Printers and Printing 2 6 I'm looking at two possible locations: DenHac, located off of 58th and Washington or Strange Grounds, which is just south of Mississippi and Broadway. DenHac would be the preferred location but I haven't secured it yet and don't want to make promises I can't keep. We will also be broadcasting over Big Blue Button for those that cannot physically attend. BBB is a fairly simple web conferencing software and I will send out a specific link to the list for everyone to use along with the final location of the actual study group. If you plan on attending in person please let me know so I have a general idea of how many people will be there. I would recommend everyone having the Linux Distro of their choice set up in a VM with a recent snapshot since we're going to be trying to break X11. If anyone has any questions or topics they'd like to discuss with me off list, please feel free to email me directly or call/text me on my cellphone at (303) 895-6696 Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 6 20:04:36 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 13:04:36 -0600 Subject: [SFS] SFS Sunday Evening LPI-102 Study Group Message-ID: ----_com.android.email_345865926691540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 V2hvIGlzIGNvbWluZyBvdmVyPyBXaG8gaXMgYXR0ZW5kaW5nIG92ZXIgdGhlIEludGVybmV0Pw== ----_com.android.email_345865926691540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSA+PGRpdj5XaG8gaXMgY29taW5nIG92 ZXI/IFdobyBpcyBhdHRlbmRpbmcgb3ZlciB0aGUgSW50ZXJuZXQ/PC9kaXY+PC9ib2R5PjwvaHRt bD4= ----_com.android.email_345865926691540-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 6 21:38:42 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Sarah Tempest) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 14:38:42 -0600 Subject: [SFS] SFS Sunday Evening LPI-102 Study Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --089e01227ca4741f1904e8188558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I will be attending over the Internet. I live too far away unfortunately. On Oct 6, 2013 1:05 PM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > Who is coming over? Who is attending over the Internet? > --089e01227ca4741f1904e8188558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will be attending over the Internet.=A0 I live too far awa= y unfortunately.

On Oct 6, 2013 1:05 PM, "David L. Willson&q= uot; <DLWillson@thegeek.nu&g= t; wrote:

Who is coming over? Who is attending over the Internet?

--089e01227ca4741f1904e8188558-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 6 22:37:50 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Jeff White) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:37:50 -0600 Subject: [SFS] SFS Sunday Evening LPI-102 Study Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dave, I'd like to attend remotely. Can you please send a link to join a remote session? Thanks, Jeff > On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > > Who is coming over? Who is attending over the Internet? From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 6 23:35:30 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 16:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] SFS Sunday Evening LPI-102 Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4c43efc8-9fe8-48e4-8e51-8e2e0cb4cf79@zimbra.thegeek.nu> tcncraft.dyndns.org -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Dave, > I'd like to attend remotely. Can you please send a link to join a > remote session? > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "David L. Willson" > > wrote: > > > > Who is coming over? Who is attending over the Internet? > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 00:37:18 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 17:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] SFS Sunday Evening LPI-102 Study Group In-Reply-To: <4c43efc8-9fe8-48e4-8e51-8e2e0cb4cf79@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <42a22778-0112-4b07-b37a-c3e54de63c2c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_cd4ad69e-c3fd-4d2c-a166-7f2a19ee0d68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > tcncraft.dyndns.org > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Dave, > > I'd like to attend remotely. Can you please send a link to join > > a > > remote session? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "David L. Willson" > > > wrote: > > > > > > Who is coming over? 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Willson) Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:17:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Share Created: SFS shared by David L. Willson Message-ID: --=_53a4855e-e3f8-441e-abd2-2ca093ead270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following share has been created: Shared item: SFS (Briefcase) Owner: David L. Willson Grantee: sfs@thegeek.nu Role: Viewer Allowed actions: View *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* URL: https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS Username: sfs@thegeek.nu Password: sfs --=_53a4855e-e3f8-441e-abd2-2ca093ead270 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

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Notes: URL: https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS
Username: sfs@thegeek.nu
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--=_53a4855e-e3f8-441e-abd2-2ca093ead270 Content-Type: xml/x-zimbra-share; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit URL: https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS Username: sfs@thegeek.nu Password: sfs --=_53a4855e-e3f8-441e-abd2-2ca093ead270-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 13:20:09 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 06:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups Message-ID: <493d059c-ae92-4355-a84f-ec096f8e2a81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_e82b4e1e-fce5-4c42-8713-caca995cc90b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Explore and practice what you learned from Chapter 6. Read Chapter 7 and do the exercises before your group meets next weekend. Next week: Bring a question or an idea and a friend. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_e82b4e1e-fce5-4c42-8713-caca995cc90b Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Notes:	URL: https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS Username: sfs@thegeek.nu Password: sfs

Explore and practice what you learned from Chapter 6.
Read Chapter 7 and do the exercises before your group meets next weekend.

Next week: Bring a question or an idea and a friend.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_e82b4e1e-fce5-4c42-8713-caca995cc90b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 17:34:57 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:34:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Ruby Tuesdays In-Reply-To: <4cd739d8-3cee-42bb-ac60-a1962e9bdbf1@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --=_7d237f02-3294-4c9c-ada8-8825def9044a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? Maybe you have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative Commons materials? -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_7d237f02-3294-4c9c-ada8-8825def9044a Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? Maybe you have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative Commons materials?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_7d237f02-3294-4c9c-ada8-8825def9044a-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 18:06:36 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Lorin Ricker) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:06:36 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Ruby Tuesdays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5252EA1C.1090502@RickerNet.us> Hey, David! Don't forget about me -- we did the "Ruby for Newbies" on one very hot summer day last year, remember? ;-) I've been primarily job-hunting, working to keep things abreast, lurking in CLUE, SFS, etc, and trying to keep our "Walking A Walk" radio show alive... But I'm available to help with Ruby classes, teaching, etc. Give me a shout, let me know what you're contemplating in more detail. I'd certainly like to help! best, -- Lorin 720-310-0031 Lorin@RickerNet.us On 10/07/2013 10:34 AM, David L. Willson wrote: > I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? Maybe you > have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative Commons > materials? > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 18:14:32 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:14:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Ruby Tuesdays In-Reply-To: <5252EA1C.1090502@RickerNet.us> Message-ID: Lorin, I haven't forgotten you! Far from it! I just didn't want to make presumptions. :-) Let's wait a day or three to see if anyone else wants to help and then get together for coffee and planning. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Hey, David! Don't forget about me -- we did the "Ruby for Newbies" > on > one very hot summer day last year, remember? ;-) I've been primarily > job-hunting, working to keep things abreast, lurking in CLUE, SFS, > etc, > and trying to keep our "Walking A Walk" radio show alive... > > But I'm available to help with Ruby classes, teaching, etc. Give me > a > shout, let me know what you're contemplating in more detail. I'd > certainly like to help! > > best, > -- Lorin 720-310-0031 Lorin@RickerNet.us > > On 10/07/2013 10:34 AM, David L. Willson wrote: > > I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? > > Maybe you > > have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative > > Commons > > materials? > > > > -- > > David L. Willson > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 18:57:42 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Kevin Fries) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:57:42 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Ruby Tuesdays In-Reply-To: References: <4cd739d8-3cee-42bb-ac60-a1962e9bdbf1@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --001a11c2b01c7f44b504e82a6330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I can also help. At Catalyst., I wrote an entire balance kind scripting API, to manage a restful interface using Ruby 1.8.7 & 1.9.3. Let me know what you need. Kevin On Oct 7, 2013 10:34 AM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? Maybe you > have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative Commons > materials? > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > --001a11c2b01c7f44b504e82a6330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I can also help.=A0=A0 At Catalyst.,=A0 I wrote an entire balance kind s= cripting API,=A0 to manage a restful interface using Ruby 1.8.7 &=A0 1.= 9.3.=A0 Let me know what you need.

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On Oct 7, 2013 10:34 AM, "David L. Willson&= quot; <DLWillson@thegeek.nu&= gt; wrote:

I know too l= ittle about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? Maybe you have a friend = that can help? Or maybe you know about Creative Commons materials?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evange= list
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLAMobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--001a11c2b01c7f44b504e82a6330-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 7 19:19:45 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Lorin Ricker) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 12:19:45 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Ruby Tuesdays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5252FB41.3040008@RickerNet.us> No presumtions assumed, buddy! ;-) Roger the wait-&-see, and I'll be happy to help! Look forward to seeing you in a few days... -- Lorin On 10/07/2013 11:14 AM, David L. Willson wrote: > Lorin, I haven't forgotten you! Far from it! I just didn't want to > make presumptions. :-) > > Let's wait a day or three to see if anyone else wants to help and > then get together for coffee and planning. > > -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH > Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile > 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Hey, David! Don't forget about me -- we did the "Ruby for >> Newbies" on one very hot summer day last year, remember? ;-) I've >> been primarily job-hunting, working to keep things abreast, lurking >> in CLUE, SFS, etc, and trying to keep our "Walking A Walk" radio >> show alive... >> >> But I'm available to help with Ruby classes, teaching, etc. Give >> me a shout, let me know what you're contemplating in more detail. >> I'd certainly like to help! >> >> best, -- Lorin 720-310-0031 Lorin@RickerNet.us >> >> On 10/07/2013 10:34 AM, David L. Willson wrote: >>> I know too little about Ruby to create a course. Can you help? >>> Maybe you have a friend that can help? Or maybe you know about >>> Creative Commons materials? >>> >>> -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite >>> CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile >>> 720-333-LANS(5267) >>> >>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >>> >> _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list >> SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs >> > _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 8 22:07:48 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (vj) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFS] please post Message-ID: <1381266468.63874.YahooMailNeo@web140603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ---1172831624-1054164029-1381266468=:63874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All=0A=0A=0AIs anyone selling the following book OR can I borrow it f= or a little while. Please contact me - =A0vxa777@yahoo.com=0A=0ACompTIA Lin= ux+ Study Guide=0APublication Date: January 14, 2013=0AISBN-10: 1118531744= =0AISBN-13: 978-1118531747=0A=0A=0AThanks=0AViji ---1172831624-1054164029-1381266468=:63874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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---1172831624-1054164029-1381266468=:63874-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 8 22:10:12 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (vj) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFS] need CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide Message-ID: <1381266612.1662.YahooMailNeo@web140605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> --1254654340-673115113-1381266612=:1662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All=0A=0A=0AIs anyone selling the following book OR can I borrow it f= or a little while. Please contact me - =A0vxa777@yahoo.com=0A=0ACompTIA Lin= ux+ Study Guide=0APublication Date: January 14, 2013=0AISBN-10: 1118531744= =0AISBN-13: 978-1118531747=0A=0A=0AThanks=0AViji --1254654340-673115113-1381266612=:1662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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--1254654340-673115113-1381266612=:1662-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 10 16:54:11 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:54:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] BLUG meeting tonight Message-ID: <384f7dc7-4385-4ecf-a268-32df39c158e2@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_741cabb9-dfe0-4573-a447-e6a9cc017953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sure most of you are aware already, but BLUG is doing lightning talks tonight. 4 presenters. None with enough time. Let's see how this works out. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_741cabb9-dfe0-4573-a447-e6a9cc017953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I'm sure most of you are aware already, but BLUG is doing lightning talks tonight. 4 presenters. None with enough time. Let's see how this works out.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_741cabb9-dfe0-4573-a447-e6a9cc017953-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 10 17:29:26 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFS] BLUG meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <384f7dc7-4385-4ecf-a268-32df39c158e2@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <384f7dc7-4385-4ecf-a268-32df39c158e2@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <795758719.4498429.1381422566815.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> ------=_Part_4498428_1703902552.1381422566814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It might work if the topics are very simple. Or if you're showing off products. I just ordered an Android HD Streamer and I don't know that I would be able to stretch it out for a whole meeting. If I would also talk about XBMC, probably. http://www.amazon.com/2013-New-Arrival-KDLINKS-Streaming/dp/B00CTEV9SW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:54:11 AM Subject: [SFS] BLUG meeting tonight I'm sure most of you are aware already, but BLUG is doing lightning talks tonight. 4 presenters. None with enough time. Let's see how this works out. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ------=_Part_4498428_1703902552.1381422566814 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It might work if the topics are very simple. Or if you're sh= owing off products. I just ordered an Android HD Streamer and I don't= know that I would be able to stretch it out for a whole meeting. If = I would also talk about XBMC, probably.

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From: "David L. Willson" = <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
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David L. Willson
Teacher, Engin= eer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP N= ovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does this mean it's playing on 10/21, then?? Awesome! Enjoy your day~ Heather Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:07 AM, "David L. Willson" wrote= : > Go us! >=20 >=20 > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: ken.fallon@gmail.com=20 > Date: 10/11/2013 3:07 AM (GMT-07:00)=20 > To: "Gary A. Romero" ,"David L. Willson" =20 > Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" =20 > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show=20 >=20 >=20 > Annnnnddd you're live. >=20 > Mon 2013-10-21: hpr1361 SFS and Linux Camp by David Willson > http://hackerpublicradio.org/calendar.php > http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3D1361 > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=3D261 >=20 > Ken. >=20 >=20 > On 2013-10-10 21:58, Gary A. Romero wrote: > > Submitted. Thanks for your time Ken! > >=20 > > ---------------------------- > > Gary (Garheade) Romero > >=20 > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and w= hen it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > >=20 > >=20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David L. Willson" > > To: "Gary A. Romero" > > Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" , "Ken Fallon" > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:29:42 PM > > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show > >=20 > >=20 > > Well then, Gary, will you please submit what we have, and let's put on o= ur fire-fighting trousers, just in case.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > -------- Original message --------=20 > > From: Ken Fallon =20 > > Date: 10/10/2013 12:35 PM (GMT-07:00)=20 > > To: "David L. Willson" =20 > > Cc: "Gary A. Romero" ,"Troy R. Ridgley" =20 > > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > No to both :-)=20 > >=20 > > We don't edit shows.=20 > >=20 > > The maillist is alive the archives are not.=20 > >=20 > > Regards=20 > >=20 > > Ken=20 > >=20 > > "David L. Willson" wrote:=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Ken,=20 > >=20 > > Is it possible to get you or someone to "screen" our show before putting= it up? I want to make sure that it comes across as an introduction, not an i= nfomercial.=20 > >=20 > > Currently, a copy of the show we want to submit is at https://zimbra.the= geek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS/Podcast_Edit_v1.mp3 but I c= an put it where-ever you like.=20 > >=20 > > Also, is the mailing list dead? I joined today, and went to read the arc= hive so I could acclimate, but it seems the archive ends in April of 2011.=20= > >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-F3F3F753-41E8-4C20-89A4-3ECD226BEEA7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does this mean it's playing on 10/21, t= hen??

Awesome!

Enjoy your day~

Heather

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2013, a= t 7:07 AM, "David L. Willson" <DL= Willson@TheGeek.NU> wrote:

<= div>Go us!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: ken.fallon@gmail.com
Date: 10/11/2013 3:07 AM = (GMT-07:00)
To: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>,"David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" &= lt;trridgley@thegeek.nu>
= Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show

Annnnnddd you're l= ive.

Mon 2013-10-21: hpr1361 SFS and Linux Camp by David Willson
<= a href=3D"http://hackerpublicradio.org/calendar.php">http://hackerpublicradi= o.org/calendar.php
http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3D1361
http://hackerpub= licradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=3D261

Ken.

On 2= 013-10-10 21:58, Gary A. Romero wrote:
> Submitted. Thanks for your ti= me Ken!
>
> ----------------------------
> Gary (Garheade= ) Romero
>
> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is= very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brand= on
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dav= id L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek= .NU>
> To: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
> Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" <trridgley@thegeek.nu>, "Ken Fallon"= <ken.fallon@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:29:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Incom= ing show, but not THE show
>
>
> Well then, Gary, will y= ou please submit what we have, and let's put on our fire-fighting trousers, j= ust in case.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from= my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- O= riginal message --------
> From: Ken Fallon <ken.fallon@gmail.com>
> Date: 10/10/2013 12= :35 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
> Cc: "Gary A. Romero= " <garomero@thegeek.nu>,"Tr= oy R. Ridgley" <trridgley@thegeek= .nu>
> Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show
> <= br>>
> No to both :-)
>
> We don't edit shows.
&= gt;
> The maillist is alive the archives are not.
>
> R= egards
>
> Ken
>
> "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU> wrote:
&g= t;
>
> Ken,
>
> Is it possible to get you or som= eone to "screen" our show before putting it up? I want to make sure that it c= omes across as an introduction, not an infomercial.
>
> Curren= tly, a copy of the show we want to submit is at https= ://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS/Podcast_Edit_v= 1.mp3 but I can put it where-ever you like.
>
> Also, is t= he mailing list dead? I joined today, and went to read the archive so I coul= d acclimate, but it seems the archive ends in April of 2011.
>

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----_com.android.email_583609936762430-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 12 00:43:17 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:43:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Larry's out for 3 weeks, but.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --=_2e707068-39ac-4073-b41e-b520cce82fec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You've only missed one. We started last weekend. Both Gary and I try to do the online meeting with Troy's BBB server, tcncraft.dyndns.org, but if/when that fails, we use Google hangouts, which has the added benefit of letting our friends at the NSA study with us. In every case, we do communications through the SFS mailing list. That's because we haven't got up an IRC or XMPP/Jabber server yet. Soon... -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello all, > Wanted to inform everyone I'll be out of the country for 3 weeks > starting Sunday morning. Bad timing for the 2nd half of the Linux > studay group, but have to get some medical stuff looked at. At this > point I've missed 2 weeks due to being sick and having some family > in town. However, this is important to me, so I don't want to miss > anymore. Please keep me updated on the different methods I can join > for the Sat. And Sun meetups. > Best regards to all, > Larry Sawyer > IT Consultant > SCSDenver.com LLC > office: (303) 751-8000 > web: www.scsdenver.com > Sent from my Samsung Note II mobile device > -------- Original message -------- > From: Heather Willson > Date: 10/11/2013 7:34 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Cc: "Gary A. Romero" ,Troy Ridgley > > Subject: Re: [SFS] Fwd: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show > Does this mean it's playing on 10/21, then?? > Awesome! > Enjoy your day~ > Heather > Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:07 AM, "David L. Willson" < > DLWillson@TheGeek.NU > wrote: > > Go us! > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: ken.fallon@gmail.com > > > Date: 10/11/2013 3:07 AM (GMT-07:00) > > > To: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu >,"David L. Willson" < > > DLWillson@TheGeek.NU > > > > Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" < trridgley@thegeek.nu > > > > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show > > > Annnnnddd you're live. > > > Mon 2013-10-21: hpr1361 SFS and Linux Camp by David Willson > > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/calendar.php > > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=1361 > > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=261 > > > Ken. > > > On 2013-10-10 21:58, Gary A. Romero wrote: > > > > Submitted. Thanks for your time Ken! > > > > > > > > ---------------------------- > > > > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > > > > > > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very > > > good; > > > and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@TheGeek.NU > > > > > To: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu > > > > > Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" < trridgley@thegeek.nu >, "Ken Fallon" < > > > ken.fallon@gmail.com > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:29:42 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show > > > > > > > > > > > > Well then, Gary, will you please submit what we have, and let's > > > put > > > on our fire-fighting trousers, just in case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > > From: Ken Fallon < ken.fallon@gmail.com > > > > > Date: 10/10/2013 12:35 PM (GMT-07:00) > > > > To: "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@TheGeek.NU > > > > > Cc: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu >,"Troy R. Ridgley" < > > > trridgley@thegeek.nu > > > > > Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show > > > > > > > > > > > > No to both :-) > > > > > > > > We don't edit shows. > > > > > > > > The maillist is alive the archives are not. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@TheGeek.NU > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > Is it possible to get you or someone to "screen" our show before > > > putting it up? I want to make sure that it comes across as an > > > introduction, not an infomercial. > > > > > > > > Currently, a copy of the show we want to submit is at > > > https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/dlwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS/Podcast_Edit_v1.mp3 > > > but I can put it where-ever you like. > > > > > > > > Also, is the mailing list dead? I joined today, and went to read > > > the archive so I could acclimate, but it seems the archive ends > > > in > > > April of 2011. > > > > > --=_2e707068-39ac-4073-b41e-b520cce82fec Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >You've only missed one. We started last weekend.

Both Gary and I tr= y to do the online meeting with Troy's BBB server, tcncraft.dyndns.org, but= if/when that fails, we use Google hangouts, which has the added benefit of= letting our friends at the NSA study with us.

In every case, we do = communications through the SFS mailing list. That's because we haven't got = up an IRC or XMPP/Jabber server yet. Soon...

= --
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Sate= llite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-L= ANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Hello all,

Wanted= to inform everyone I'll be out of the country for 3 weeks starting Sunday = morning. Bad timing for the 2nd half of the Linux studay group, but have to= get some medical stuff looked at. At this point I've missed 2 weeks due to= being sick and having some family in town. However, this is important to m= e, so I don't want to miss anymore. Please keep me updated on the different= methods I can join for the Sat. And Sun meetups.

=
Best regards to all,

Larry Sawyer
IT Consultant
SCSDenver.com LLC
offi= ce: (303) 751-8000
web: www.scsdenver.com=

Sent from my Samsung= Note II mobile device

-------- Original message --------=
From: Heather Willson <hmacgrey@gmail.com>
Date: 10/11/2013 = 7:34 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Cc: "Gary A. Romero" <ga= romero@thegeek.nu>,Troy Ridgley <Troy.Ridgley@datalogix.com>
S= ubject: Re: [SFS] Fwd: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show

Does this mean it's playing on 10/21, then??
Awesome!

En= joy your day~
Heather

Sent from= my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:07 AM, "David L= . Willson" <DL= Willson@TheGeek.NU> wrote:

Go us!=

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: ken.fallon@gmail.com
Date: 10/11/20= 13 3:07 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>,"David L. W= illson" <DLWil= lson@TheGeek.NU>
Cc: "Troy R. Ridgley" <trridgley@thegeek.nu>
Subje= ct: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show

Annnnnddd you're live.=

Mon 2013-10-21: hpr1361 SFS and Linux Camp by David Willson
http://= hackerpublicradio.org/calendar.php
http://hackerpublicradio.org/ep= s.php?id=3D1361
http://hackerpublicradio.org/corresp= ondents.php?hostid=3D261

Ken.

On 2013-10-10 21:58, Ga= ry A. Romero wrote:
> Submitted. Thanks for your time Ken!
> > ----------------------------
> Gary (Garheade) Romero
> =
> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good= ; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon
>
= >
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David L. Willson"= <DLWillson@Th= eGeek.NU>
> To: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
> Cc: "Tr= oy R. Ridgley" <trridgley@thegeek.nu>, "Ken Fallon" <ken.fallon@gmail.com>
> Sent: = Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:29:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Incoming show, b= ut not THE show
>
>
> Well then, Gary, will you please = submit what we have, and let's put on our fire-fighting trousers, just in c= ase.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Ver= izon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>
> -------- Origina= l message --------
> From: Ken Fallon <ken.fallon@gmail.com>
> Date:= 10/10/2013 12:35 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
> Cc: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>,"Troy R. Ridgley" <trridgley@thegeek.nu= >
> Subject: Re: Incoming show, but not THE show
> >
> No to both :-)
>
> We don't edit shows.
&g= t;
> The maillist is alive the archives are not.
>
> R= egards
>
> Ken
>
> "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU> wrote:
>
>
> Ken,
>
> Is it possi= ble to get you or someone to "screen" our show before putting it up? I want= to make sure that it comes across as an introduction, not an infomercial. =
>
> Currently, a copy of the show we want to submit is at https://zimbra.thegeek.nu:443/home/d= lwillson@thegeek.nu/Shared/SFS/Podcast_Edit_v1.mp3 but I can put it whe= re-ever you like.
>
> Also, is the mailing list dead? I joine= d today, and went to read the archive so I could acclimate, but it seems th= e archive ends in April of 2011.
>

--=_2e707068-39ac-4073-b41e-b520cce82fec-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 12 16:03:14 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:03:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: [Members] Saturday Study Group In-Reply-To: <2cd8ac34-2d3d-42b0-b51e-e38f81a750ff@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: The big blue button server is down at the moment. We'll be using google hangouts until we can get it fixed. For this mornings study group, we'll use https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d9af0cd2a492938896f99ea97fefc5e9cb3083a0?hl=en Thanks, ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:57:52 PM Subject: [Members] Saturday Study Group All, Just a quick reminder that we'll be doing the study group for the LPIC 102 exam on Saturday at 9am to 1pm. This week we'll be covering Chapter 7 of the Comptia Linux+ Study Guide book. The topics covered in this book are listed below. 107.1 manage User and Group accounts and related system files 108.1 maintain system time 108.2 system Logging You can attend at DenHac or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ Members mailing list Members@box776.bluehost.com http://box776.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/members_denhac.org From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 12 16:35:29 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: [Members] Saturday Study Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --=_5cb6a52a-70dc-478f-84ec-03d57e2306f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The notes for today. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" Cc: "Mailman Distribution List" Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:03:14 AM Subject: [SFS] Re: [Members] Saturday Study Group The big blue button server is down at the moment. We'll be using google hangouts until we can get it fixed. 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Willson) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:38:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: <493d059c-ae92-4355-a84f-ec096f8e2a81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <29688e63-9398-43d0-bdc3-f569f4962f00@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_013b32cd-b3b7-46fd-b766-0ac85df70187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Next week: Bring a friend or two. If turnout is too low, we will have to cancel the less popular session. What's Gary got that I ain't got? :-) Explore and practice what you learned from Chapter 7. Read Chapter 8 and do the exercises before your group meets next weekend. --=_013b32cd-b3b7-46fd-b766-0ac85df70187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Next week: Bring a friend or two. If turnout is too low, we will have to cancel the less popular session. What's Gary got that I ain't got? :-)
Explore and practice what you learned from Chapter 7.
Read Chapter 8 and do the exercises before your group meets next weekend.
--=_013b32cd-b3b7-46fd-b766-0ac85df70187-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 14 05:29:29 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (vj) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups In-Reply-To: <29688e63-9398-43d0-bdc3-f569f4962f00@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <493d059c-ae92-4355-a84f-ec096f8e2a81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <29688e63-9398-43d0-bdc3-f569f4962f00@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1381724969.89863.YahooMailNeo@web140604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> --1023258982-51640252-1381724969=:89863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone=0A=0A=0ALPI 102 - study group on Sundays from 5 to 9 pm =A0-= =A0=0A=0AI have been attending this class with David Wilson. =A0It is a awe= some class covering all aspects in the book - Roderick Smith=A0(=A0CompTIA = Linux+ Study Guide) with demo and lectures. =A0I have learnt so much, I can= 't even explain it. David is a great teacher, I wish I had him for all my c= lasses.=A0=0A=0A=0APlease attend this class, so that he won;t cancel it bec= ause of not having enough students. I really need this for my selfish reaso= ns to learn Linux.=A0=0A=0A=0AThanks to all=A0=0A=0AViji=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0AOn Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:41 PM, David L. Willson wrote:=0A =0ANext week: Bring a friend or two. If turnout is too low, = we will have to cancel the less popular session. What's Gary got that I ain= 't got? :-)=0AExplore and practice what you learned from Chapter 7.=0ARead = Chapter 8 and do the exercises=0A before your group meets next weekend. --1023258982-51640252-1381724969=:89863 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Everyone

LPI 102 - study group on S= undays from 5 to 9 pm -

I have been at= tending this class with David Wilson. It is a awesome class covering = all aspects in the book - Roderick Smith ( CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide) with demo and lectures. I have= learnt so much, I can't even explain it. David is a great teacher, I wish = I had him for all my classes.
=
Please attend this class, so that he won;t cancel it = because of not having enough students. I really need this for my selfish re= asons to learn Linux.

Thanks to all

Viji

= On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:41 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegee= k.nu> wrote:

Next week: Bring = a friend or two. If turnout is too low, we will have to cancel the less pop= ular session. What's Gary got that I ain't got? :-)
Explo= re and practice what you learned from Chapter 7.
Read Cha= pter 8 and do the exercises=0A before your group meets next weekend.

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--1023258982-51640252-1381724969=:89863-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 04:46:50 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David Willson) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 03:46:50 +0000 Subject: [SFS] Ogg Camp Message-ID: --_000_inks647yjvsxj189sohr8qcm1381808801487emailandroidcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 VGhpcyBpcyBhYnNvbHV0ZWx5IGF3ZXNvbWUsIGFuZCBJIHdhbnQgdG8gaGVscCBtYWtlIHNvbWV0 aGluZyBsaWtlIGl0IGhhcHBlbiBoZXJlLg0KDQpodHRwOi8vb2dnY2FtcC5vcmcvDQoNCg0KU2Vu dCBmcm9tIG15IFZlcml6b24gV2lyZWxlc3MgNEcgTFRFIFNtYXJ0cGhvbmUNCg== --_000_inks647yjvsxj189sohr8qcm1381808801487emailandroidcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <98280B5633ABDB46A38B08030C441D04@DATALOGIX.onmicrosoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+DQo8aGVhZD4NCjxtZXRhIGh0dHAtZXF1aXY9IkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZSIgY29udGVudD0i dGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PXV0Zi04Ij4NCjwvaGVhZD4NCjxib2R5Pg0KPGRpdj5UaGlzIGlz IGFic29sdXRlbHkgYXdlc29tZSwgYW5kIEkgd2FudCB0byBoZWxwIG1ha2Ugc29tZXRoaW5nIGxp a2UgaXQgaGFwcGVuIGhlcmUuPC9kaXY+DQo8ZGl2Pjxicj4NCjwvZGl2Pg0KPGRpdj5odHRwOi8v b2dnY2FtcC5vcmcvPC9kaXY+DQo8ZGl2Pjxicj4NCjwvZGl2Pg0KPGRpdj48YnI+DQo8L2Rpdj4N CjxkaXY+DQo8ZGl2IHN0eWxlPSJmb250LXNpemU6NzUlO2NvbG9yOiM1NzU3NTciPlNlbnQgZnJv bSBteSBWZXJpem9uIFdpcmVsZXNzIDRHIExURSBTbWFydHBob25lPC9kaXY+DQo8L2Rpdj4NCjwv Ym9keT4NCjwvaHRtbD4NCg== --_000_inks647yjvsxj189sohr8qcm1381808801487emailandroidcom_-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 04:59:22 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:59:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Message-ID: <88d66d15-0075-4bec-9a46-6899a87fc7b3@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_8fc177ed-6c8c-49ec-a6df-b7170227f97c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_8fc177ed-6c8c-49ec-a6df-b7170227f97c Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
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Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_8fc177ed-6c8c-49ec-a6df-b7170227f97c-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 14:17:32 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 07:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <88d66d15-0075-4bec-9a46-6899a87fc7b3@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <23ddcad3-8ac3-4065-9aef-438f6122e4c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 14:23:12 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <23ddcad3-8ac3-4065-9aef-438f6122e4c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <23ddcad3-8ac3-4065-9aef-438f6122e4c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1893535974.7665086.1381843392530.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> ------=_Part_7665085_1262000478.1381843392529 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs ------=_Part_7665085_1262000478.1381843392529 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Beaglebone Black might be an alternati= ve for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is im= portant to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not = be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

From: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegee= k.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, = 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab with= out Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously though, a = Prototyping Lab?

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"Documentation is like sex: when it is goo= d, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." D= ick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Da= vid L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.n= u>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What d= o you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aaron for r= eminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I ke= ep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.=

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/a= rduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/
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Romero) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management. 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect 3. Scratch Programming lessons 4. Build an IRC server 5. ??? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) To: sfs@thegeek.nu Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 15:41:03 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1784937742.7734539.1381848063436.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> ------=_Part_7734538_439262583.1381848063435 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dokuwiki - You will need to install PHP and Apache, Lighttpd, or another webserver. Let them decide what the wiki should contain. OwnCloud - This requires a webserver and a database. Who needs Dropbox? XBMC - They'll probably love this one, especially if you add a hard drive to store ripped movies. I just found out that Android can be installed onto BBB. I don't know what the quality is at this time. You could also use Ubuntu, Arch Linux, etc. I just ordered an Android media streamer box. I'm going to install a few apps so my wife can use it to watch Chinese shows without always hooking up her laptop. Maybe you could try that. If you want to connect I/O, a weather station might be interesting, but I don't know what the sensors would cost. Home automation? Maybe not, considering what it might cost for automation devices. I'm not sure what else to suggest. Some things require a knowledge of electronics, money, and lots of time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) To: sfs@thegeek.nu Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs ------=_Part_7734538_439262583.1381848063435 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dokuwiki - You will need to install PHP and Apache, Lighttpd, or a= nother webserver. Let them decide what the wiki should contain.
OwnCloud - This requires a webserver and a database. Who nee= ds Dropbox?
XBMC - They'll probably love this one, especially= if you add a hard drive to store ripped movies.

I just found out that Android can be installed onto BBB. I don't k= now what the quality is at this time. You could also use Ubuntu, Arch= Linux, etc.

I just ordered an Android media s= treamer box. I'm going to install a few apps so my wife can use it to= watch Chinese shows without always hooking up her laptop. Maybe you = could try that.

If you want to connect I/O, a = weather station might be interesting, but I don't know what the sensors wou= ld cost.

Home automation? Maybe not, con= sidering what it might cost for automation devices.

I'm not sure what else to suggest. Some things require a knowle= dge of electronics, money, and lots of time.
From: "D= avid L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu<= br>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re:= [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you= think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone B= lacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizo= n Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Ori= ginal message --------
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/= 2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] Wh= at do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beaglebone Black m= ight be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high= , in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory to= o, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is= on the Pi.

From: "Gary A. Romero" <= ;garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesd= ay, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you ca= ll a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

Seri= ously though, a Prototyping Lab?

------------------------= ----
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex= : when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better = than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message --= ---
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs" &= lt;sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subje= ct: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thank= s to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry = Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer= for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-tech= nology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware= -too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Eva= ngelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCL= A
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for = a r3VOLution.

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------=_Part_7734538_439262583.1381848063435-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 15:59:31 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> ------=_Part_7751518_684938071.1381849171450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and expertise these kids have. NAS Network backup Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management. 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect 3. Scratch Programming lessons 4. Build an IRC server 5. ??? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) To: sfs@thegeek.nu Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs ------=_Part_7751518_684938071.1381849171450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what le= vel of interest and expertise these kids have.

NAS
Network backup
Amahi home server, assuming= it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. = It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro.&= nbsp; Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.
= From: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs= @thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subj= ect: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

= 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote manageme= nt.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratc= h Programming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"= Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when= it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

= ----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheG= eek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38= AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi= 's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?
=

Sent from my Verizon Wirele= ss 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message -----= ---
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-= 07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi = Lab without Pi?

Beaglebone Black = might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in = case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it m= ight not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.=

----- Original Message -----

From= : "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
S= ent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do yo= u call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

=

Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?

-----= -----------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"= Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when= it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" &= lt;DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: = Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you call a P= i Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aaron for= reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I = keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi La= b.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/201= 3/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/
=

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelis= t
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a = r3VOLution.

________________________________________= _______
SFS mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.= nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

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SFS mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
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------=_Part_7751518_684938071.1381849171450-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 17:32:27 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Kevin Byrne) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:32:27 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> References: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Message-ID: --e89a8f3ba35d577d3004e8ca21e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0). Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;) On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote: > Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of > interest and expertise these kids have. > > NAS > Network backup > Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that > it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be > installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good > project. > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Gary A. Romero" 'garomero@thegeek.nu');>> > *To: *sfs@thegeek.nu > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM > *Subject: *Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote > management. > 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect > 3. Scratch Programming lessons > 4. Build an IRC server > 5. ??? > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and > when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 > BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net 'dennisjperkins@comcast.net');> > Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > > Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution > isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash > memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip > as it is on the Pi. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary A. Romero" 'garomero@thegeek.nu');>> > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Expensive. > > > Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? > > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and > when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: "sfs" > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM > Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the > Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better > single-board computer for our Pi Lab. > > > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ > > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > --e89a8f3ba35d577d3004e8ca21e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just= cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0= /1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel C= eleron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on so= me HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I s= till have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in t= he boxes. Using 6x=A0WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even si= ngle drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even= able to saturate USB 2.0).

Personally if you want something cool to play with and are h= ankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Neweg= g has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to bu= ild a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email ser= ver, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it= with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2= cents ;)

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:
Three more to w= hat I already suggested.=A0 I don't know what level of interest and exp= ertise these kids have.

NAS
Network backup
Am= ahi home server, assuming it has been ported over.=A0 The drawback is that = it uses Fedora.=A0 It would be nice if it was packages that could be instal= led on any distro.=A0 Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.=

From: = "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu= >
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, Octo= ber 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi = Lab without Pi?

1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and = remote management.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to conne= ct
3. Scratch Programming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, = very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brando= n

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Wil= lson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.= nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do yo= u call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you think of somethin= g fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small= bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon W= ireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message = --------
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu=
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beaglebone Black might be an alternative f= or you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is importan= t to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as conven= ient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

----- Original Message -----

From: &qu= ot;Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>= ;
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 = 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously though, a Pr= ototyping Lab?

----------------------------
Gary= (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: = when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better th= an nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: &q= uot;David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs&q= uot; <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you ca= ll a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aar= on for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, = and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer= for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ar= duino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelis= t
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a = r3VOLution.

_______________________________________________
SFS = mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.th= egeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

_______________________________________________
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SFS@thegeek.nu
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--e89a8f3ba35d577d3004e8ca21e3-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 17:56:23 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Kevin Byrne) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 10:56:23 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: References: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Message-ID: --047d7b624e2afb6fec04e8ca762b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote: > I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI > just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a > RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or > Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 > systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed > in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 > gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people > run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 > MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0). > > Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a > fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 > series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud > with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and > desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only > open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;) > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote: > >> Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of >> interest and expertise these kids have. >> >> NAS >> Network backup >> Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is >> that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be >> installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good >> project. >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Gary A. Romero" >> *To: *sfs@thegeek.nu >> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >> >> 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote >> management. >> 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect >> 3. Scratch Programming lessons >> 4. Build an IRC server >> 5. ??? >> >> ---------------------------- >> Gary (Garheade) Romero >> >> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and >> when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David L. Willson" >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >> >> >> Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 >> BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net >> Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >> >> >> >> >> Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution >> isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash >> memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip >> as it is on the Pi. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Gary A. Romero" >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >> >> >> Expensive. >> >> >> Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? >> >> >> ---------------------------- >> Gary (Garheade) Romero >> >> >> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and >> when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David L. Willson" >> To: "sfs" >> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM >> Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >> >> >> >> Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the >> Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better >> single-board computer for our Pi Lab. >> >> >> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ >> >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFS mailing list >> SFS@thegeek.nu >> http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SFS mailing list >> SFS@thegeek.nu >> http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs >> >> --047d7b624e2afb6fec04e8ca762b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry.

On Tuesd= ay, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote:

I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just= cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0= /1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel C= eleron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on so= me HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I s= till have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in t= he boxes. Using 6x=A0WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even si= ngle drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even= able to saturate USB 2.0).

Personally if you want something cool to play with and are h= ankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Neweg= g has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to bu= ild a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email ser= ver, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it= with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2= cents ;)

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:
Three more to w= hat I already suggested.=A0 I don't know what level of interest and exp= ertise these kids have.

NAS
Network backup
Am= ahi home server, assuming it has been ported over.=A0 The drawback is that = it uses Fedora.=A0 It would be nice if it was packages that could be instal= led on any distro.=A0 Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.=

From: = "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 = 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without P= i?

1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and = remote management.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to conne= ct
3. Scratch Programming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, = very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brando= n

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Wil= lson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do yo= u call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you think of somethin= g fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small= bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon W= ireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message = --------
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subj= ect: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beaglebone Black might be an alternative f= or you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is importan= t to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as conven= ient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

----- Original Message -----

From: &qu= ot;Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously though, a Pr= ototyping Lab?

----------------------------
Gary= (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: = when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better th= an nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: &q= uot;David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs&q= uot; <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you ca= ll a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aar= on for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, = and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer= for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ar= duino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelis= t
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a = r3VOLution.

_______________________________________________
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SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mail= man/listinfo/sfs

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--047d7b624e2afb6fec04e8ca762b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 17:59:12 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: References: <4f42e7dd-a85a-4e1c-9458-3d5063a5e49e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Message-ID: <157214162.7866643.1381856352427.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> ------=_Part_7866642_1638572470.1381856352426 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Agreed. I wouldn't use one for a full-blown NAS, but it might work well enough for their purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Byrne" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:56:23 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote: I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0). Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;) On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:

Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and expertise these kids have. NAS Network backup Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project. From: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu > To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management. 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect 3. Scratch Programming lessons 4. Build an IRC server 5. ??? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) To: sfs@thegeek.nu Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu > To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Expensive. Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" < sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

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Agreed. I wouldn't use one for a full-blown NAS, but it might work well enough for their purposes.

From: "Kevin Byrne" <kbyrne9000@gmail.com>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:56:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote:

I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).

Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;)

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:
Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and expertise these kids have.

NAS
Network backup
Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.

From: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratch Programming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

_______________________________________________
SFS mailing list
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http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

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------=_Part_7866642_1638572470.1381856352426-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 18:10:49 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Lorin Ricker) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 11:10:49 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Ogg Camp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <525D7719.3030702@RickerNet.us> At first, the "Ogg" led me to think that this was all about music, audio, video, that sort of thing... Great in and of itself. But hey, OggCamp is a whole heck of a lot more than "just that", although it certainly encompasses arts & music, it really looks like pretty much like an "anything goes", as long as it's FLOSS, open hardware, Creative Commons, etc. It would be wonderful to see an OggCamp version flourish in Denver & the Front Range. I'd imagine that its success will hinge on a few things: 1. Dedicated volunteers to organize & run it 2. A "critical mass" of Open Source-oriented businesses to contribute significant enough treasure and resources support to promote it (beyond just the relatively few of us software/computer geeks who'd attend) to a wide(r) creative population, and to fund the actual "hard costs" of getting it put on 3. A great venue to host/hold it (which doesn't impose stupid/silly restrictions on a bunch of creative free spirits) 4. Attendees -- geeks, artists, writers, performers, nerds, creatives, hobbyists, free-thinkers, etc. -- obviously, the more the merrier I'm in, I'll help!... at least let's start talking and see what planning and other practicalities would be required to follow in the footsteps of our British colleagues to do a Colorado OggCamp #1 (or even a 0.5)! best regards, -- Lorin -- 720-310-0031 (cell) -- Lorin@RickerNet.us Lorin Ricker SEED (Software-Engineer-Entrepreneur-Developer), Linux (reg# 482346), Ruby, VMS, DEC (the good old days) On 10/14/2013 09:46 PM, David Willson wrote: > This is absolutely awesome, and I want to help make something like it > happen here. > > http://oggcamp.org/ > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 19:15:13 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] OpenStack Lab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8373c3b6-dc14-474e-bd67-8759a315b70a@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_2d55dc14-4d8e-4214-a895-31c2e63a5a09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rather than just discarding this fine post... Let's change topics to another of the many things we want to do. What is the least expensive way to get nodes with 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, and 64-bit processor with vm extensions? Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nodes and spend an afternoon building and arranging them into an OpenStack cluster? -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The > PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything > outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD > Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid > openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some > intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time > saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using > 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive > SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to > saturate USB 2.0). > Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering > for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg > has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try > to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file > space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as > endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun > (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;) --=_2d55dc14-4d8e-4214-a895-31c2e63a5a09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Rather than just discarding this fine post... Let's change topics to anoth= er of the many things we want to do.

What is the least expensive way= to get nodes with 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, and 64-bit processor with vm extens= ions?

Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nodes and spend an aft= ernoon building and arranging them into an OpenStack cluster?

= --
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evange= list
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLAMobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

I would personally not every b= uild a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the ne= twork let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ra= m and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some N= AS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with= some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturati= ng a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red= 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and = they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).
Personally if you want something cool to play = with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation= /server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. = Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file sp= ace, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints= and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky).= Just my 2 cents ;)

--=_2d55dc14-4d8e-4214-a895-31c2e63a5a09-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 21:05:07 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Maxwell Spangler) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:05:07 -0600 Subject: [SFS] OpenStack Lab In-Reply-To: <8373c3b6-dc14-474e-bd67-8759a315b70a@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <8373c3b6-dc14-474e-bd67-8759a315b70a@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1381867507.2327.49.camel@elite.fossil> --=-LeLaYTgr7oTVcniUMr8O Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is on my to-do list. Older AMD Phenom I, Phenom II or Opteron processors are the cheapest CPU and they do virtualization wonderfully. Choosing a Phenom II processor gives you easy access to DDR3 which means low-cost RAM. Phenom I CPUs, while available at lower prices, often use DDR2 which is quite expensive especially when you want to use 4G DIMMs or greater. So my suggestion would be 2009-2011 era 4 or 6 core Phenom II based desktops with 4x4G DDR3 or more. My home lab is 3x Phenom I systems with 6-8G of RAM each and my main desktop which is Phenom II with 12G of RAM. Disk is irrelevant since you don't use much for OpenStack exploration. It's really CPU, RAM and networking that matter. Finally, if you use OpenStack using Xen instead of KVM, you shouldn't even need hardware. You should be able to build one big box and put different OpenStack nodes within virtual machines and create Xen VMs within the OpenStack VM's environment. I just installed Citrix Xenserver *inside* a KVM VM this morning and expect to spin up Xen VMs within it later this week for testing. Finally, there are now pre-packaged tools like packstack which made the process of installing and configuring OpenStack easier than before. Red Hat produces one of these and a recent Webinar I watched made it look fairly easy. Cheers, On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 12:15 -0600, David L. Willson wrote: > Rather than just discarding this fine post... Let's change topics to > another of the many things we want to do. > > What is the least expensive way to get nodes with 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, > and 64-bit processor with vm extensions? > > Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nodes and spend an afternoon > building and arranging them into an OpenStack cluster? > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered > NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone > run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram > and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I > run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP > MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in > there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 > with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). > I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and > they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate > USB 2.0). > > > > Personally if you want something cool to play with and are > hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic > workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for > under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on > it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and > desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it > with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and > geeky). Just my 2 cents ;) > > > > > -- Maxwell Spangler ======================================================================== Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services Photography / Graphics Design / Writing Fort Collins, Colorado http://www.maxwellspangler.com --=-LeLaYTgr7oTVcniUMr8O Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is on my to-do list.

Older AMD Phenom I, Phenom II or Opteron processors are the cheapest CPU and they do virtualization wonderfully.

Choosing a Phenom II processor gives you easy access to DDR3 which means low-cost RAM. Phenom I CPUs, while available at lower prices, often use DDR2 which is quite expensive especially when you want to use 4G DIMMs or greater.

So my suggestion would be 2009-2011 era 4 or 6 core Phenom II based desktops with 4x4G DDR3 or more. My home lab is 3x Phenom I systems with 6-8G of RAM each and my main desktop which is Phenom II with 12G of RAM.

Disk is irrelevant since you don't use much for OpenStack exploration. It's really CPU, RAM and networking that matter.

Finally, if you use OpenStack using Xen instead of KVM, you shouldn't even need hardware. You should be able to build one big box and put different OpenStack nodes within virtual machines and create Xen VMs within the OpenStack VM's environment. I just installed Citrix Xenserver *inside* a KVM VM this morning and expect to spin up Xen VMs within it later this week for testing.

Finally, there are now pre-packaged tools like packstack which made the process of installing and configuring OpenStack easier than before. Red Hat produces one of these and a recent Webinar I watched made it look fairly easy.

Cheers,

On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 12:15 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:
Rather than just discarding this fine post... Let's change topics to another of the many things we want to do.

What is the least expensive way to get nodes with 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, and 64-bit processor with vm extensions?

Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nodes and spend an afternoon building and arranging them into an OpenStack cluster?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).

Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;)

<snipped>

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========================================================================
Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services
Photography / Graphics Design / Writing
Fort Collins, Colorado
http://www.maxwellspangler.com

--=-LeLaYTgr7oTVcniUMr8O-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 15 21:25:55 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Matt James) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:25:55 -0600 Subject: [SFS] OpenStack Lab In-Reply-To: <1381867507.2327.49.camel@elite.fossil> References: <8373c3b6-dc14-474e-bd67-8759a315b70a@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <1381867507.2327.49.camel@elite.fossil> Message-ID: --047d7b10cd9d1278b604e8cd664f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ohhh ohhhh me me me. I'm very interested in playing around with something like this. I have some hardware I got from a BLUG member - I'll have to check and see if it will work or not - I'm guessing not but we'll see. MJ On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Maxwell Spangler < maxwell@maxwellspangler.com> wrote: > ** > This is on my to-do list. > > Older AMD Phenom I, Phenom II or Opteron processors are the cheapest CPU > and they do virtualization wonderfully. > > Choosing a Phenom II processor gives you easy access to DDR3 which means > low-cost RAM. Phenom I CPUs, while available at lower prices, often use > DDR2 which is quite expensive especially when you want to use 4G DIMMs or > greater. > > So my suggestion would be 2009-2011 era 4 or 6 core Phenom II based > desktops with 4x4G DDR3 or more. My home lab is 3x Phenom I systems with > 6-8G of RAM each and my main desktop which is Phenom II with 12G of RAM. > > Disk is irrelevant since you don't use much for OpenStack exploration. > It's really CPU, RAM and networking that matter. > > Finally, if you use OpenStack using Xen instead of KVM, you shouldn't even > need hardware. You should be able to build one big box and put different > OpenStack nodes within virtual machines and create Xen VMs within the > OpenStack VM's environment. I just installed Citrix Xenserver *inside* a > KVM VM this morning and expect to spin up Xen VMs within it later this week > for testing. > > Finally, there are now pre-packaged tools like packstack which made the > process of installing and configuring OpenStack easier than before. Red > Hat produces one of these and a recent Webinar I watched made it look > fairly easy. > > Cheers, > > > On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 12:15 -0600, David L. Willson wrote: > > Rather than just discarding this fine post... Let's change topics to > another of the many things we want to do. > > What is the least expensive way to get nodes with 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, and > 64-bit processor with vm extensions? > > Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nodes and spend an afternoon > building and arranging them into an OpenStack cluster? > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------ > > I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI > just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a > RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or > Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 > systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed > in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 > gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people > run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 > MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0). > > > > Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering > for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the > i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a > cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, > and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with > only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents > ;) > > > > > > -- > Maxwell Spangler > ======================================================================== > Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing > Services > Photography / Graphics Design / Writing > Fort Collins, Colorado > http://www.maxwellspangler.com > -- Go Green! Please do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary. --047d7b10cd9d1278b604e8cd664f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ohhh ohhhh me me me. =A0I'm very interested in playing= around with something like this. =A0I have some hardware I got from a BLUG= member - I'll have to check and see if it will work or not - I'm g= uessing not but we'll see.=A0

MJ

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Maxwell Spangler <maxwell@maxwellspangler.com> wrote:

=20 =20
This is on my to-do list.

Older AMD Phenom I, Phenom II or Opteron processors are the cheapest CPU an= d they do virtualization wonderfully.

Choosing a Phenom II processor gives you easy access to DDR3 which means lo= w-cost RAM.=A0 Phenom I CPUs, while available at lower prices, often use DD= R2 which is quite expensive especially when you want to use 4G DIMMs or gre= ater.

So my suggestion would be 2009-2011 era 4 or 6 core Phenom II based desktop= s with 4x4G DDR3 or more.=A0 My home lab is 3x Phenom I systems with 6-8G o= f RAM each and my main desktop which is Phenom II with 12G of RAM.

Disk is irrelevant since you don't use much for OpenStack exploration.= =A0 It's really CPU, RAM and networking that matter.

Finally, if you use OpenStack using Xen instead of KVM, you shouldn't e= ven need hardware.=A0 You should be able to build one big box and put diffe= rent OpenStack nodes within virtual machines and create Xen VMs within the = OpenStack VM's environment.=A0=A0 I just installed Citrix Xenserver *in= side* a KVM VM this morning and expect to spin up Xen VMs within it later t= his week for testing.

Finally, there are now pre-packaged tools like packstack which made the pro= cess of installing and configuring OpenStack easier than before.=A0 Red Hat= produces one of these and a recent Webinar I watched made it look fairly e= asy.

Cheers,

On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 12:15 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:
Rather than just discarding this fine post... L= et's change topics to another of the many things we want to do.<= br>
What is the least expensive way to get nodes wi= th 16+GB RAM, 4+ cores, and 64-bit processor with vm extensions?

Wouldn't it be great fun to get 4+ such nod= es and spend an afternoon building and arranging them into an OpenStack clu= ster?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 U= buntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
=20

I would personally not every build a grosse= ly underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alo= ne run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at leas= t an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid= openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e= 1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line= (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x=A0WD Red 3TB drives). I = have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't e= ven crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).

Personally if you want something cool to pl= ay with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstat= ion/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the tim= e. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file= space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as en= dpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and = geeky). Just my 2 cents ;)

<snipped>

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--047d7b10cd9d1278b604e8cd664f-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 17 17:13:34 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Saturday Study Group In-Reply-To: <2db9e4ca-97f8-449c-977d-bb195d552274@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <4c8dfb7c-0664-46d5-b5b5-604589602615@zimbra.thegeek.nu> All, Sorry for this being so late. The study groups for this weekend will be covering chapter 8 of the CompTIA Linux+ book. This chapter covers the following items: 109.1 fundamentals of Internet Protocols 109.2 Basic network configuration 109.3 Basic network Troubleshooting 109.4 configure Client Side DNS As always, the Saturday study group is from 9am to 1pm. You can join in person at DenHac (www.DenHack.org) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The Sunday study group is from 5pm to 9pm. You can join in person at David's house (email David Willson DLWillson@thegeek.nu or I for the address) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The book details for the CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide is below and it is expected that you've either read the chapter from the book are that you're fairly familiar with the material it touches on. CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide Publication Date: January 14, 2013 ISBN-10: 1118531744 ISBN-13: 978-1118531747 The goal of this Study Group is to pass the LPIC 102 exam. All material covered also applies to the ComTIA Linux+ and the SUSE Certified Linux Administrator exams. So, even if you don't plan on taking the LPIC exams, the material is still very useful. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero Software Freedom Society Monkey http://sofree.us "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 17 17:37:08 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: [Members] Saturday Study Group In-Reply-To: <4c8dfb7c-0664-46d5-b5b5-604589602615@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <62f14625-c81a-4fc1-91f9-aab8844f0fee@zimbra.thegeek.nu> A few corrections: DenHac's website is http://www.denhac.org and David has given me permission to release his address: 4237 W Grand Ave, 80123 ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Denhac Members-only Mailing List" , "Mailman Distribution List" Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:13:34 AM Subject: [Members] Saturday Study Group All, Sorry for this being so late. The study groups for this weekend will be covering chapter 8 of the CompTIA Linux+ book. This chapter covers the following items: 109.1 fundamentals of Internet Protocols 109.2 Basic network configuration 109.3 Basic network Troubleshooting 109.4 configure Client Side DNS As always, the Saturday study group is from 9am to 1pm. You can join in person at DenHac (www.DenHack.org) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The Sunday study group is from 5pm to 9pm. You can join in person at David's house (email David Willson DLWillson@thegeek.nu or I for the address) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The book details for the CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide is below and it is expected that you've either read the chapter from the book are that you're fairly familiar with the material it touches on. CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide Publication Date: January 14, 2013 ISBN-10: 1118531744 ISBN-13: 978-1118531747 The goal of this Study Group is to pass the LPIC 102 exam. All material covered also applies to the ComTIA Linux+ and the SUSE Certified Linux Administrator exams. So, even if you don't plan on taking the LPIC exams, the material is still very useful. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero Software Freedom Society Monkey http://sofree.us "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ Members mailing list Members@box776.bluehost.com http://box776.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/members_denhac.org From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 19 00:43:37 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:43:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_a3ea37a0-1e72-4396-aaef-97297a21f445 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the kids play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) This will include: - Helping to select the gear (probably need some sensors and servos, in addition to the SBC's) - Finding or creating creative commons materials - Promoting events - Running events -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of > interest and expertise these kids have. > NAS > Network backup > Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is > that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could > be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a > good project. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote > management. > 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect > 3. Scratch Programming lessons > 4. Build an IRC server > 5. ??? > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; > and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 > BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net > Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics > resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is > internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot > from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > Expensive. > Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; > and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: "sfs" > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM > Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the > Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better > single-board computer for our Pi Lab. > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs --=_a3ea37a0-1e72-4396-aaef-97297a21f445 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the kids= play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?)

This w= ill include:
- Helping to select the gear (probably need some sens= ors and servos, in addition to the SBC's)
- Finding or creating cr= eative commons materials
- Promoting events
- Running eve= nts

--
David L. Willson
Teacher,= Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubun= tuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for = a r3VOLution.

Three more to= what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and ex= pertise these kids have.

NAS
Net= work backup
Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported ov= er. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it= was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating a= n equivalent would be a good project.
From: "Gary A.= Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sen= t: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] Wh= at do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

1. Build a Website. I= nclude some sort of change control and remote management.
2. Build a gam= e server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratch Programming lessons=
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

--------------------= --------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like= sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is bet= ter than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Messag= e -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs= @thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [= SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Can you th= ink of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blac= ks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone =

-------- Original message --------
From: dennisj= perkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@th= egeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
<= div>

Beaglebone Black might be an alternati= ve for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is importan= t to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as conven= ient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

<= br>----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary A. Romero" &l= t;garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October= 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab witho= ut Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously t= hough, a Prototyping Lab?

--------------------------= --
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentation is like= sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is bet= ter than nothing." Dick Brandon

-----= Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.= NU>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2= 013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm= so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's= probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-= explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

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Mobile 720-333-LANS(5= 267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
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= --=_a3ea37a0-1e72-4396-aaef-97297a21f445-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sat Oct 19 02:57:00 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Aaron Brown) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:57:00 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5261E6EC.9070708@gmail.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090706070209070206010700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit /me timidly raises hand halfway David L. Willson wrote: > > If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the > kids play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) > > This will include: > - Helping to select the gear (probably need some sensors and servos, > in addition to the SBC's) > - Finding or creating creative commons materials > - Promoting events > - Running events > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of > interest and expertise these kids have. > > NAS > Network backup > Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback > is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that > could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent > would be a good project. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Gary A. Romero" > *To: *sfs@thegeek.nu > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM > *Subject: *Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote > management. > 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect > 3. Scratch Programming lessons > 4. Build an IRC server > 5. ??? > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very > good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 > RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net > Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > > Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics > resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There > is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to > boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Expensive. > > > Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? > > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very > good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: "sfs" > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM > Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about > the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a > better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. > > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ > > > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --------------090706070209070206010700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit /me timidly raises hand halfway

David L. Willson wrote:

If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the
kids play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?)

This will include:
- Helping to select the gear (probably need some sensors and servos,
in addition to the SBC's)
- Finding or creating creative commons materials
- Promoting events
- Running events

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of
    interest and expertise these kids have.

    NAS
    Network backup
    Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback
    is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that
    could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent
    would be a good project.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    *From: *"Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
    *To: *sfs@thegeek.nu
    *Sent: *Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

    1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote
    management.
    2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
    3. Scratch Programming lessons
    4. Build an IRC server
    5. ???

    ----------------------------
    Gary (Garheade) Romero

    "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very
    good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
    To: sfs@thegeek.nu
    Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
    Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

    Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3
    RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

    -------- Original message --------
    From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
    Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
    To: sfs@thegeek.nu
    Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

    Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics
    resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There
    is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to
    boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
    To: sfs@thegeek.nu
    Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
    Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

    Expensive.

    Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?

    ----------------------------
    Gary (Garheade) Romero

    "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very
    good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
    To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
    Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
    Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

    Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about
    the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a
    better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.

    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

    --
    David L. Willson
    Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
    RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
    Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

    This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

    _______________________________________________
    SFS mailing list
    SFS@thegeek.nu
    http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

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--------------090706070209070206010700-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 20 21:33:35 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] disambiguation In-Reply-To: <210f1740-fce6-49bc-8c0a-7b688ef721d3@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <37a8a335-33fa-4d3b-8d88-88433156fac5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_24d7ab6d-4dc5-4e76-8d43-7b6f134fb0ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like to preserve the ambiguity of the what the TLA SFS stands for. I say Software Freedom School, Society, Saturdays, and Sessions... Sometimes, I even say that it stands for "Software Freedom Something". But, don't let that lead you into thinking that I'm not sure of the purpose of SFS. That is very clear to me, though sometimes it's hard for me to articulate. SFS's raison d'etre is to teach the world how to use free software, and more importantly, why to choose free software. Randall Schwartz of the FLOSS Weekly always asks this question, "What problem does your project try to solve?" Our project tries to solve the problem of free software illiteracy. We try to make free software easier for schools, for businesses, for amateurs and acolytes, by sharing what we know, and building on it, and re-sharing. We reinforce the important bit, that "free" means "libre", though it usually also comes "gratis". When forced to disambiguate, I'll say SFS stands for "Software Freedom School", because it is only here to teach the world about free software. When the software world has gotten over it's dis-trust model, when honorable behavior is expected, not because of a rich tapestry of IP law, but because it's normal, and few people choose to do business with schmucks, when ideas and knowledge are no longer jealously guarded, but instead are zealously shared, our mission will be accomplished, and we can move on to something new, but something tells me we'll be working on this mission for a long while. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_24d7ab6d-4dc5-4e76-8d43-7b6f134fb0ba Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >I like to preserve the ambiguity of the what the TLA SFS stands for.
I say Software Freedom School, Society, Saturdays, and Sessions... Someti= mes, I even say that it stands for "Software Freedom Something". But, don't= let that lead you into thinking that I'm not sure of the purpose of SFS. T= hat is very clear to me, though sometimes it's hard for me to articulate. S= FS's raison d'etre is to teach the world how to use free software, an= d more importantly, why to choose free software.

Randall Schwartz of= the FLOSS Weekly always asks this question, "What problem does your projec= t try to solve?"

Our project tries to solve the problem of free soft= ware illiteracy. We try to make free software easier for schools, for busin= esses, for amateurs and acolytes, by sharing what we know, and building on = it, and re-sharing. We reinforce the important bit, that "free" means "libr= e", though it usually also comes "gratis".

When forced to disambigua= te, I'll say SFS stands for "Software Freedom School", because it is only h= ere to teach the world about free software. When the software world has got= ten over it's dis-trust model, when honorable behavior is expected, not bec= ause of a rich tapestry of IP law, but because it's normal, and few people = choose to do business with schmucks, when ideas and knowledge are no longer= jealously guarded, but instead are zealously shared, our mission will be a= ccomplished, and we can move on to something new, but something tells me we= 'll be working on this mission for a long while.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satell= ite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LAN= S(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_24d7ab6d-4dc5-4e76-8d43-7b6f134fb0ba-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 21 00:07:50 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Group late start Message-ID: --=_47684b57-01bc-41e8-8cd8-8eb80edfc4b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BBB is down right now. We'll start at 17:15. Sorry for the late notice. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_47684b57-01bc-41e8-8cd8-8eb80edfc4b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
BBB is down right now. We'll start at 17:15. Sorry for the late notice.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_47684b57-01bc-41e8-8cd8-8eb80edfc4b5-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 03:00:07 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Chris Fedde) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:00:07 -0600 Subject: [SFS] disambiguation In-Reply-To: <37a8a335-33fa-4d3b-8d88-88433156fac5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <210f1740-fce6-49bc-8c0a-7b688ef721d3@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <37a8a335-33fa-4d3b-8d88-88433156fac5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --089e0158b86685632004e94ac248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Since you bring up Randal Schwartz I'll bring up something from another Perl luminary: Damian Conway has introduced the idea of a Quantum Superposition in programming languages. The idea is that a thing can have more than one value at a time. I'm pretty confident that I am strongly in favor of useful ambiguity. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > I like to preserve the ambiguity of the what the TLA SFS stands for. > > I say Software Freedom School, Society, Saturdays, and Sessions... > Sometimes, I even say that it stands for "Software Freedom Something". But, > don't let that lead you into thinking that I'm not sure of the purpose of > SFS. That is very clear to me, though sometimes it's hard for me to > articulate. SFS's raison d'etre is to teach the world how to use free > software, and more importantly, why to choose free software. > > Randall Schwartz of the FLOSS Weekly always asks this question, "What > problem does your project try to solve?" > > Our project tries to solve the problem of free software illiteracy. We try > to make free software easier for schools, for businesses, for amateurs and > acolytes, by sharing what we know, and building on it, and re-sharing. We > reinforce the important bit, that "free" means "libre", though it usually > also comes "gratis". > > When forced to disambiguate, I'll say SFS stands for "Software Freedom > School", because it is only here to teach the world about free software. > When the software world has gotten over it's dis-trust model, when > honorable behavior is expected, not because of a rich tapestry of IP law, > but because it's normal, and few people choose to do business with > schmucks, when ideas and knowledge are no longer jealously guarded, but > instead are zealously shared, our mission will be accomplished, and we can > move on to something new, but something tells me we'll be working on this > mission for a long while. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > --089e0158b86685632004e94ac248 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since you bring up Randal Schwartz I'll bring up = something from another Perl luminary: =A0Damian Conway has introduced the i= dea of a Quantum Superposition in programming languages. =A0The idea is tha= t a thing can have more than one value at a time. =A0I'm pretty confide= nt that I am strongly in favor of useful ambiguity.

On Sun,= Oct 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>= ; wrote:

I like to preserve the ambiguity of the what the TLA SFS= stands for.

I say Software Freedom School, Society, Saturdays, and Sessions... Some= times, I even say that it stands for "Software Freedom Something"= . But, don't let that lead you into thinking that I'm not sure of t= he purpose of SFS. That is very clear to me, though sometimes it's hard= for me to articulate. SFS's raison d'etre is to teach the wo= rld how to use free software, and more importantly, why to choose free soft= ware.

Randall Schwartz of the FLOSS Weekly always asks this question, "W= hat problem does your project try to solve?"

Our project tries = to solve the problem of free software illiteracy. We try to make free softw= are easier for schools, for businesses, for amateurs and acolytes, by shari= ng what we know, and building on it, and re-sharing. We reinforce the impor= tant bit, that "free" means "libre", though it usually = also comes "gratis".

When forced to disambiguate, I'll say SFS stands for "Software= Freedom School", because it is only here to teach the world about fre= e software. When the software world has gotten over it's dis-trust mode= l, when honorable behavior is expected, not because of a rich tapestry of I= P law, but because it's normal, and few people choose to do business wi= th schmucks, when ideas and knowledge are no longer jealously guarded, but = instead are zealously shared, our mission will be accomplished, and we can = move on to something new, but something tells me we'll be working on th= is mission for a long while.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Ev= angelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCL= A
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.=

--089e0158b86685632004e94ac248-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 21 19:16:25 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Our intro is today's HPR episode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99f6b1f7-84f8-45de-86e3-f19d31988516@zimbra.thegeek.nu> 3rd try. Our introduction went up on HPR's RSS feed today. I wonder if we'll get any feedback... From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 21 15:22:34 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. 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Anselmi) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:28:32 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5266C3D0.7090004@anselmi.us> David L. Willson wrote: > If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the kids play with the gear? > (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) I could possibly supply some kids. And perhaps they could advertise to their friends. But probably not on Saturdays, unfortunately. Dave From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 20:36:03 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:36:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <5266C3D0.7090004@anselmi.us> Message-ID: <68374e3f-7b0a-4b8a-a7f3-6b16a5437d81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> > David L. Willson wrote: > > If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help > > the kids play with the gear? > > (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) > > I could possibly supply some kids. And perhaps they could advertise > to their friends. > > But probably not on Saturdays, unfortunately. What days do you like? And, we want 9-12 kids, with at least half being smart ones. > Dave From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 21:03:20 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Matt James) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:03:20 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --047d7b1632573ac5ec04e959e60b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm in - you had me at pi. :-) oh - will Mrs. Wilson be providing any pie? ya know - keep with the theme? maybe a pi pie? I might also be able to con a small child or two into joining. MJ On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the kids > play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) > > This will include: > - Helping to select the gear (probably need some sensors and servos, in > addition to the SBC's) > - Finding or creating creative commons materials > - Promoting events > - Running events > > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------ > > Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of > interest and expertise these kids have. > > NAS > Network backup > Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that > it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be > installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good > project. > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Gary A. Romero" > *To: *sfs@thegeek.nu > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM > *Subject: *Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote > management. > 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect > 3. Scratch Programming lessons > 4. Build an IRC server > 5. ??? > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and > when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 > BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net > Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > > Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution > isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash > memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip > as it is on the Pi. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gary A. Romero" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM > Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > Expensive. > > > Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? > > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and > when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > To: "sfs" > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM > Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? > > > > Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the > Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better > single-board computer for our Pi Lab. > > > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/ > > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > > > -- Go Green! Please do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary. --047d7b1632573ac5ec04e959e60b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm in - you had me at pi. =A0:-) =A0oh - will Mrs. Wi= lson be providing any pie? =A0ya know - keep with the theme? =A0maybe a pi = pie?=A0

I might also be able to con a small child or two= into joining.

MJ

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David L. Willson <DLWills= on@thegeek.nu> wrote:

If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who = will help the kids play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who el= se?)

This will include:
=A0- Helping to select the gear (probably need so= me sensors and servos, in addition to the SBC's)
=A0- Finding or cre= ating creative commons materials
=A0- Promoting events
=A0- Running e= vents

--
David L. Willson
Teache= r, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ub= untuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time fo= r a r3VOLution.

Three more to what I already suggested.=A0 I don't know what level= of interest and expertise these kids have.

NA= S
Network backup
Amahi home server, assuming it= has been ported over.=A0 The drawback is that it uses Fedora.=A0 It would = be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro.=A0 Maybe = creating an equivalent would be a good project.

From: = "Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.= nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: = Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

1. Bu= ild a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management. 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratch Progr= amming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

------= ----------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Do= cumentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when i= t is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Wil= lson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 20= 13 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

=
Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's,= 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon Wirele= ss 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message -----= ---
From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you= call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beagle= bone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn'= ;t as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memor= y too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as i= t is on the Pi.

----- Original Message -----

From: &qu= ot;Gary A. Romero" <garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do y= ou call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

=
"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good= ; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: &q= uot;David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs&q= uot; <sfs@thegeek.nu= >
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you ca= ll a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aar= on for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, = and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer= for our Pi Lab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ar= duino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelis= t
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a = r3VOLution.

_______________________________________________
SFS = mailing list
SFS@th= egeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

_______________________________________________
SFS maili= ng list
SFS@thegeek.= nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

--
Go Green!=A0 Please= do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary.
--047d7b1632573ac5ec04e959e60b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 23:25:53 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Anselmi) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:25:53 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: <68374e3f-7b0a-4b8a-a7f3-6b16a5437d81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <68374e3f-7b0a-4b8a-a7f3-6b16a5437d81@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5266FB71.8020805@anselmi.us> David L. Willson wrote: >> David L. Willson wrote: >>> If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help >>> the kids play with the gear? >>> (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) >> >> I could possibly supply some kids. And perhaps they could advertise >> to their friends. >> >> But probably not on Saturdays, unfortunately. > > What days do you like? And, we want 9-12 kids, with at least half being smart ones. If you're looking at multi-hour sessions then Sunday afternoons. For < 2hr sessions a weeknight could work (yeah, don't ask me which one--they're all booked one way or another). Smart should be easy enough but maybe not any computer experience. (So they'd know how to use Google but maybe not anything about files or folders.) So that might be a challenge for you. But homework wouldn't be an issue for the ones I would bring, so pre-study to speed up the basics would work. Let's work on an agenda (sorry, syllabus) and format (number, length, frequency of sessions) and then we can make a flier to advertise. Dave From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 23:29:14 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:29:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Study Group Week 4 In-Reply-To: <4527190e-f193-48d0-9db9-d2696a95e389@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <83a896ce-cd1e-4e9c-ac12-a74c24d44d9c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> The study groups for this weekend will be covering chapter 9 of the CompTIA Linux+ book. Chapters 8 & 0 represent a HUGE portion of the test, you cannot pass the exam without these chapters. If you missed chapter 8 last week, please, please, please read it and work through the examples in the book. This chapter covers the following items: 105.1 customize and use the shell environment 105.2 customize or write simple scripts 105.3 SQL Data management 107.2 automate system administration tasks by scheduling jobs 108.3 Mail transfer Agent basics As always, the Saturday study group is from 9am to 1pm. You can join in person at DenHac (www.DenHack.org) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The Sunday study group is from 5pm to 9pm. You can join in person at David’s house or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The book details for the CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide is below and it is expected that you've either read the chapter from the book are that you’re fairly familiar with the material it touches on. CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide Publication Date: January 14, 2013 ISBN-10: 1118531744 ISBN-13: 978-1118531747 The goal of this Study Group is to pass the LPIC 102 exam. All material covered also applies to the ComTIA Linux+ and the SUSE Certified Linux Administrator exams. So, even if you don’t plan on taking the LPIC exams, the material is still very useful. You can subscribe to the SFS Event’s Calendar feed here: http://www.sofree.us/?page_id=2 ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 23:30:39 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Study Group Week 4 In-Reply-To: <83a896ce-cd1e-4e9c-ac12-a74c24d44d9c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <7422f00b-d081-45de-a23d-56056b259f3e@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Dang it! I did it again. DenHac's website is http://denhac.org ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Romero" To: "Mailman Distribution List" Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:29:14 PM Subject: [SFS] Study Group Week 4 The study groups for this weekend will be covering chapter 9 of the CompTIA Linux+ book. Chapters 8 & 0 represent a HUGE portion of the test, you cannot pass the exam without these chapters. If you missed chapter 8 last week, please, please, please read it and work through the examples in the book. This chapter covers the following items: 105.1 customize and use the shell environment 105.2 customize or write simple scripts 105.3 SQL Data management 107.2 automate system administration tasks by scheduling jobs 108.3 Mail transfer Agent basics As always, the Saturday study group is from 9am to 1pm. You can join in person at DenHac (www.DenHack.org) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The Sunday study group is from 5pm to 9pm. You can join in person at David’s house or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. The book details for the CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide is below and it is expected that you've either read the chapter from the book are that you’re fairly familiar with the material it touches on. CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide Publication Date: January 14, 2013 ISBN-10: 1118531744 ISBN-13: 978-1118531747 The goal of this Study Group is to pass the LPIC 102 exam. All material covered also applies to the ComTIA Linux+ and the SUSE Certified Linux Administrator exams. So, even if you don’t plan on taking the LPIC exams, the material is still very useful. You can subscribe to the SFS Event’s Calendar feed here: http://www.sofree.us/?page_id=2 ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 22 23:31:48 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary Romero) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:31:48 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Study Group Week 4 In-Reply-To: <83a896ce-cd1e-4e9c-ac12-a74c24d44d9c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <4527190e-f193-48d0-9db9-d2696a95e389@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <83a896ce-cd1e-4e9c-ac12-a74c24d44d9c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: Ugh... Chapters 8 & 9 not '8 & 0'. I think I need a vacation... again. Gary Romero On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Gary A. Romero wrote: > The study groups for this weekend will be covering chapter 9 of the CompTIA Linux+ book. Chapters 8 & 0 represent a HUGE portion of the test, you cannot pass the exam without these chapters. If you missed chapter 8 last week, please, please, please read it and work through the examples in the book. This chapter covers the following items: > > 105.1 customize and use the shell environment > 105.2 customize or write simple scripts > 105.3 SQL Data management > 107.2 automate system administration tasks by scheduling jobs > 108.3 Mail transfer Agent basics > > As always, the Saturday study group is from 9am to 1pm. You can join in person at DenHac (www.DenHack.org) or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. > > The Sunday study group is from 5pm to 9pm. You can join in person at David’s house or online at http://tcncraft.dyndns.org. > > The book details for the CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide is below and it is expected that you've either read the chapter from the book are that you’re fairly familiar with the material it touches on. > > CompTIA Linux+ Study Guide > Publication Date: January 14, 2013 > ISBN-10: 1118531744 > ISBN-13: 978-1118531747 > > The goal of this Study Group is to pass the LPIC 102 exam. All material covered also applies to the ComTIA Linux+ and the SUSE Certified Linux Administrator exams. So, even if you don’t plan on taking the LPIC exams, the material is still very useful. > > You can subscribe to the SFS Event’s Calendar feed here: http://www.sofree.us/?page_id=2 > > ---------------------------- > Gary (Garheade) Romero > > "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 23 13:51:01 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 06:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] I have needs In-Reply-To: <2fffdf44-c327-401c-ace1-ff3ab09163b1@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <8f1c7bce-4dc5-4e6f-90fa-725162402b95@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_50dddb70-5c4c-4ce9-8ed8-d5016fb2be61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to find someone that understands free software, but if that's not possible, I can deal. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving rants, so I need an accountant that ... is also Libertarian or is very patient and easy to amuse. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_50dddb70-5c4c-4ce9-8ed8-d5016fb2be61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to find someone that understands free software, but if that's not possible, I can deal. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving rants, so I need an accountant that ... is also Libertarian or is very patient and easy to amuse.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_50dddb70-5c4c-4ce9-8ed8-d5016fb2be61-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 23 15:53:54 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Kevin Kempter) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:53:54 -0600 Subject: [SFS] I have needs In-Reply-To: <8f1c7bce-4dc5-4e6f-90fa-725162402b95@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <8f1c7bce-4dc5-4e6f-90fa-725162402b95@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5267E302.8050303@consistentstate.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080205070103020508060504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/23/13 6:51 AM, David L. Willson wrote: > I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to > find someone that understands free software, but if that's not > possible, I can deal. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving > rants, so I need an accountant that ... is also Libertarian or is very > patient and easy to amuse. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > Best accountant/CPA around, she's in Colorado Springs but well worth it... Nancy Marion 719-578-5528 --------------080205070103020508060504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 10/23/13 6:51 AM, David L. Willson wrote:

I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to find someone that understands free software, but if that's not possible, I can deal. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving rants, so I need an accountant that ... is also Libertarian or is very patient and easy to amuse.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Best accountant/CPA around, she's in Colorado Springs but well worth it...

Nancy Marion
719-578-5528
--------------080205070103020508060504-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 23 18:18:24 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Heather Willson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:18:24 -0600 Subject: [SFS] I have needs In-Reply-To: <5267E302.8050303@consistentstate.com> References: <8f1c7bce-4dc5-4e6f-90fa-725162402b95@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <5267E302.8050303@consistentstate.com> Message-ID: <8D193839-67A0-43E1-9119-41899092A481@thegeek.nu> --Apple-Mail-544D0426-0A46-43E0-8FC0-7C288F635D24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kevin,=20 Thank you for the referral.=20 Enjoy your day~ Heather Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Kevin Kempter wrot= e: > On 10/23/13 6:51 AM, David L. Willson wrote: >> I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to find s= omeone that understands free software, but if that's not possible, I can dea= l. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving rants, so I need an accou= ntant that ... is also Libertarian or is very patient and easy to amuse. >>=20 >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >>=20 >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > Best accountant/CPA around, she's in Colorado Springs but well worth it...= >=20 > Nancy Marion > 719-578-5528 --Apple-Mail-544D0426-0A46-43E0-8FC0-7C288F635D24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Kevin,

Thank you for the referral.

Enjoy your day~
Heather

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Kevin Kempter <kevink@consistentstate.com> wrote:

On 10/23/13 6:51 AM, David L. Willson wrote:

I need help with sales, marketing, and accounting. I would love to find someone that understands free software, but if that's not possible, I can deal. OTOH, I am Libertarian and prone to hand-waving rants, so I need an accountant that ... is also Libertarian or is very patient and easy to amuse.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Best accountant/CPA around, she's in Colorado Springs but well worth it...

Nancy Marion
719-578-5528

--Apple-Mail-544D0426-0A46-43E0-8FC0-7C288F635D24-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 05:08:32 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Heather Willson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:08:32 -0600 Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? In-Reply-To: References: <1241811377.7751519.1381849171451.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <4ab9c7f4-a08a-4528-a53c-f49227c9d67c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-C603A525-D0B0-4722-96C9-6A846F8376AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure I could help with that. :) Enjoy your day~ Heather Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Matt James wrote: > I'm in - you had me at pi. :-) oh - will Mrs. Wilson be providing any pi= e? ya know - keep with the theme? maybe a pi pie?=20 >=20 > I might also be able to con a small child or two into joining. >=20 > MJ >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David L. Willson w= rote: >> If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who will help the kid= s play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?) >>=20 >> This will include: >> - Helping to select the gear (probably need some sensors and servos, in a= ddition to the SBC's) >> - Finding or creating creative commons materials >> - Promoting events >> - Running events >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >>=20 >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >>=20 >> Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of inter= est and expertise these kids have. >>=20 >> NAS >> Network backup >> Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is tha= t it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be install= ed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project. >> From: "Gary A. Romero" >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >>=20 >> 1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote manage= ment. >> 2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect >> 3. Scratch Programming lessons >> 4. Build an IRC server >> 5. ??? >>=20 >> ---------------------------- >> Gary (Garheade) Romero >>=20 >> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and w= hen it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David L. Willson" >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? >>=20 >>=20 >> Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 Bea= gleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -------- Original message --------=20 >> From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net=20 >> Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)=20 >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu=20 >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution= isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash me= mory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as= it is on the Pi.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >>=20 >> From: "Gary A. Romero" =20 >> To: sfs@thegeek.nu=20 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM=20 >> Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Expensive.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------=20 >> Gary (Garheade) Romero=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and w= hen it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >> From: "David L. Willson" =20 >> To: "sfs" =20 >> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM=20 >> Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Ras= pberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board co= mputer for our Pi Lab.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-exp= lains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> David L. Willson=20 >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist=20 >> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA=20 >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________=20 >> SFS mailing list=20 >> SFS@thegeek.nu=20 >> http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> SFS mailing list >> SFS@thegeek.nu >> http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Go Green! Please do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessa= ry.=20 --Apple-Mail-C603A525-D0B0-4722-96C9-6A846F8376AE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure I could help with that. :)
Enjoy your day~
Heather

Sent from my iP= hone

On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Matt James <= matuse@gmail.com> wrote:

<= /div>
I'm in - you had me at p= i. :-) oh - will Mrs. Wilson be providing any pie? ya know= - keep with the theme? maybe a pi pie?

I mig= ht also be able to con a small child or two into joining.

MJ

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@= thegeek.nu> wrote:

If SFS buys the gear for this prototyping workshop, who wil= l help the kids play with the gear? (Ridgley and I will for sure. Who else?)=

This will include:
- Helping to select the gear (probably need s= ome sensors and servos, in addition to the SBC's)
- Finding or crea= ting creative commons materials
- Promoting events
- Runni= ng events

--
David L. Willson
Teacher= , Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubun= tuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a= r3VOLution.

Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level o= f interest and expertise these kids have.

NAS
Network backup
Amahi home server, assuming it has= been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would= be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. May= be creating an equivalent would be a good project.

From: "G= ary A. Romero" <= garomero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.n= u
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

1. Build= a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratch Progra= mming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???

--------= --------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

"Documentat= ion is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad,= it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" &= lt;DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
T= o: sfs@thegeek.nuSent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?

<= br>Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 Bea= gleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?

Sent from my Verizon Wireles= s 4G LTE Smartphone

-------- Original message -------= -
From: = dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you c= all a Pi Lab without Pi?

Beaglebon= e Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as hi= gh, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, bu= t it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on th= e Pi.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gar= y A. Romero" <ga= romero@thegeek.nu>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do yo= u call a Pi Lab without Pi?

Expensive.

<= /div>
Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?

----------------------------
Gary (Garheade) Romero

<= br>"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and w= hen it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Da= vid L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGee= k.NU>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you cal= l a Pi Lab without Pi?

Thanks to Aaron= for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why= I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi L= ab.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/ardui= no-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist=
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mo= bile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3V= OLution.

_______________________________________________
SFS m= ailing list
SFS@theg= eek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

_______________________________________________
SFS mailin= g list
SFS@thegeek.nu=
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

--
Go Green! Pleas= e do not print this e-mail unless it is completely necessary.

= --Apple-Mail-C603A525-D0B0-4722-96C9-6A846F8376AE-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 20:36:01 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's Message-ID: <6e7b59dc-5b75-4865-9966-307c1e05503b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_b75679e3-2323-4ae0-9dac-05c0a28409fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not run. At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped. Forward this warning as appropriate . -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_b75679e3-2323-4ae0-9dac-05c0a28409fe Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not run.

At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped.

Forward this warning as appropriate.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_b75679e3-2323-4ae0-9dac-05c0a28409fe-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 18:09:58 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (sfs@thegeek.nu) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Linux Camp Victory Party Message-ID: <0329e7b7-d6c1-4895-a1b6-4ad51df9228d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_4b6ee521-3960-435c-8f6b-693ab3ce9c85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following is a new meeting request: Subject: Linux Camp Victory Party Organizer: "David L. Willson" Location: willsonhouse@thegeek.nu Resources: "Willson House" Time: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 9:00:00 AM - 10:00:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/C= anada Mountain Required: Rykk112358@gmail.com; rbrunson@lpi.org; lsawyer@scsdenver.com; ga= romero@thegeek.nu; sctempe13@gmail.com; tripp@thegeek.nu; Kevin.Byrne@RTD-D= enver.com; matuse@gmail.com; fred.steeve@gmail.com; trridgley@thegeek.nu; = ... Optional: sfs@thegeek.nu *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Required: Linux Campers Optional: SFS'ers Agenda Items: =E2=80=A2 LPI-102 Exam Prep and Exam with expert Ross Brunson =E2=80=A2 T-Shirt Tie Dye with expert Robert Quick =E2=80=A2 Scotch =E2=80=A2 Board Games =E2=80=A2 Chatting =E2=80=A2 Food --=_4b6ee521-3960-435c-8f6b-693ab3ce9c85 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The following is a new meeting request:

Subject: Linux Camp Victory Party

Organizer: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>

Location: willsonhouse@thegeek.nu

Resources: "Willson House"

Time: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 9:00:00 AM - 10:00:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain

Required: Rykk112358@gmail.com; rbrunson@lpi.org; lsawyer@scsdenver.com; garomero@thegeek.nu; sctempe13@gmail.com; tripp@thegeek.nu; Kevin.Byrne@RTD-Denver.com; matuse@gmail.com; fred.steeve@gmail.com; trridgley@thegeek.nu; ...

Optional: sfs@thegeek.nu

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Required: Linux Campers
Optional: SFS'ers

Agenda Items:
LPI-102 Exam Prep and Exam with expert Ross Brunson
T-Shirt Tie Dye with expert Robert Quick
Scotch
Board Games
Chatting
Food
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LPI-102 Exam Prep = an d Exam with expert Ross Brunson
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Scotch
Board Games
Chatting
<= li >Food
BEGIN:VALARM ACTION:DISPLAY TRIGGER;RELATED=3DSTART:-PT60M DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR --=_4b6ee521-3960-435c-8f6b-693ab3ce9c85-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 21:21:40 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Kevin Byrne) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:21:40 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Linux Camp Victory Party In-Reply-To: <0329e7b7-d6c1-4895-a1b6-4ad51df9228d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <0329e7b7-d6c1-4895-a1b6-4ad51df9228d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --047d7bd6b9acac803804e9826115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I hope you all have fun. I will be out of town this weekend. Celebrate in my place a little bit harder. On Oct 24, 2013 2:20 PM, wrote: > The following is a new meeting request: > > Subject:Linux Camp Victory Party Organizer:"David L. Willson" > > > Location:willsonhouse@thegeek.nu Resources:"Willson House" ** Time:Saturday, > November 23, 2013, 9:00:00 AM - 10:00:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > > Required:Rykk112358@gmail.com; rbrunson@lpi.org; lsawyer@scsdenver.com; > garomero@thegeek.nu; sctempe13@gmail.com; tripp@thegeek.nu; > Kevin.Byrne@RTD-Denver.com; matuse@gmail.com; fred.steeve@gmail.com; > trridgley@thegeek.nu; ... Optional:sfs@thegeek.nu > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Required: Linux Campers > Optional: SFS'ers > > Agenda Items: > > - LPI-102 Exam Prep and Exam with expert Ross Brunson > - T-Shirt Tie Dye with expert Robert Quick > - Scotch > - Board Games > - Chatting > - Food > > --047d7bd6b9acac803804e9826115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hope you all have fun. I will be out of town this weekend.= Celebrate in my place a little bit harder.

On Oct 24, 2013 2:20 PM, <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

The following is a new meeting request:

Subject: Linux Camp Victory Party

Organizer: "David L. Willson" <= DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>

Location: willsonhouse@thegeek.nu

Resources: "Willson House" =

Time: Saturday, November 23, 2013, 9:00:00 A= M - 10:00:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain

Required: Rykk112358@gmail.com; rbrunson@lpi.org; lsawyer@scsdenver.com; garomero@thegeek.nu; sctempe13@gmail.com;= tripp@thegeek.nu= ; Kevin.Byrne@RTD-Denver.com; matuse@gmail.com; fred.steeve@gmail.com; trridgley@thegeek.nu; ...

Optional: sfs@thegeek.nu

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Required: Linux Campers
Optional: SFS'ers

Ag= enda Items:
LPI-102 Exam Prep and Exam with expert Ross Brunson<= br>
T-Shirt Tie Dye with expert Robert Quick
Scotch
Board Games
Chatting
Food
=
--047d7bd6b9acac803804e9826115-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 21:49:56 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Linux Camp Victory Party In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I hope you all have fun. I will be out of town this weekend. > Celebrate in my place a little bit harder. We'll turn on Big Blue Button and put up a web-cam or two. From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 22:38:04 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:38:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] IRC Message-ID: <50ddd295-ea74-43d5-9de6-16fcffb75837@zimbra.thegeek.nu> I'm hanging out in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net If you have no frickin' clue, or no fIRCin' client, but you want to hang out, use this: http://mibbit.com/#sofreeus@irc.freenode.net But be aware that these are US-based services, so don't say pressure-cooker, nail-bomb, or Taliban. Oops. Heh heh. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 22:42:14 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:42:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] IRC In-Reply-To: <50ddd295-ea74-43d5-9de6-16fcffb75837@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <8a424c83-30ed-479e-b3c5-4e089260d63c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Another option for a web client is here: http://webchat.freenode.net/ ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:38:04 PM Subject: [SFS] IRC I'm hanging out in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net If you have no frickin' clue, or no fIRCin' client, but you want to hang out, use this: http://mibbit.com/#sofreeus@irc.freenode.net But be aware that these are US-based services, so don't say pressure-cooker, nail-bomb, or Taliban. Oops. Heh heh. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 22:45:14 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Jon Buttjer) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:45:14 -0600 Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: <6e7b59dc-5b75-4865-9966-307c1e05503b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <6e7b59dc-5b75-4865-9966-307c1e05503b@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --089e01293f1088699004e9838c17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Good afternoon. Well.. based on the the last few sessions.. sounds like I might need to transition to studying on my own?! I don't wish to be mis-interpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. class so far had 3 students. I've only attended the Sun. session once and there were alas only two students?? I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/facilitator but if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an option. Thoughts? Thanks, jb On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the CC line > with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not run. > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped. > > Forward this warning as appropriate. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > -- Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?! Are you free? --089e01293f1088699004e9838c17 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good afternoon.

Well.. based on the the= last few sessions.. sounds like I might need to transition to studying on = my own?! =A0I don't wish to be mis-interpreted.. but only one time has = the Sat. class so far had 3 students. =A0I've only attended the Sun. se= ssion once and there were alas only two students??

I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/f= acilitator but if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds lik= e an option.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
jb

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson <D= LWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s= ), listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study sessi= on might not run.

At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be co= unted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped.

= Forward this warning as appropriate.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Ne= twork+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
=
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--
= Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?!=A0 Are you free?

--089e01293f1088699004e9838c17-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 22:51:28 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --=_6cd3451a-a720-4fc4-9c7b-8738e8834f65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions. You should RSVP to both sessions and hope for the best. We already have another student RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, plus just one more RSVP would guarantee one session to run. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Good afternoon. > Well.. based on the the last few sessions.. sounds like I might need > to transition to studying on my own?! I don't wish to be > mis-interpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. class so far had 3 > students. I've only attended the Sun. session once and there were > alas only two students?? > I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/facilitator but > if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an option. > Thoughts? > Thanks, > jb > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson < > DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the > > CC > > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not > > run. > > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will > > be > > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be > > skipped. > > > Forward this warning as appropriate. > > > -- > > > David L. Willson > > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > > > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > -- > Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?! Are you free? --=_6cd3451a-a720-4fc4-9c7b-8738e8834f65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Saturday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions.
You should = RSVP to both sessions and hope for the best.
We already have another stu= dent RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, plus just one more RSVP would gu= arantee one session to run.

--
David L. W= illson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ = Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This i= s a good time for a r3VOLution.

Good afternoon.

Well.. based on th= e the last few sessions.. sounds like I might need to transition to studyin= g on my own?! I don't wish to be mis-interpreted.. but only one time = has the Sat. class so far had 3 students. I've only attended the Sun.= session once and there were alas only two students??

I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/f= acilitator but if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an opt= ion.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
jb

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson <D= LWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s= ), listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study sessi= on might not run.

At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be co= unted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped.

= Forward this warning as appropriate.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Ne= twork+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
=
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--
= Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?! Are you free?

--=_6cd3451a-a720-4fc4-9c7b-8738e8834f65-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 24 23:26:33 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --=_9a78ab3c-52c1-434f-ac1a-e5ac1aa56c6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll add one other thought. You could invite a friend. Since both sessions are at 1 student already, you and your friend would be able to co mmand your session of choice. Isn't that nice? Don't tell me you can't find even one other person that's interested in larnin' some Linux... -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Saturday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions. > You should RSVP to both sessions and hope for the best. > We already have another student RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, > plus just one more RSVP would guarantee one session to run. > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > ----- Original Message ----- > > Good afternoon. > > > Well.. based on the the last few sessions.. sounds like I might > > need > > to transition to studying on my own?! I don't wish to be > > mis-interpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. class so far had 3 > > students. I've only attended the Sun. session once and there were > > alas only two students?? > > > I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/facilitator > > but > > if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an option. > > > Thoughts? > > > Thanks, > > > jb > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson < > > DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: > > > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on > > > the > > > CC > > > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might > > > not > > > run. > > > > > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will > > > be > > > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be > > > skipped. > > > > > > Forward this warning as appropriate. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > David L. Willson > > > > > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > > > > > > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > > > > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > > > > -- > > > Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?! Are you free? > --=_9a78ab3c-52c1-434f-ac1a-e5ac1aa56c6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >I'll add one other thought. You could invite a friend. Since both sessions= are at 1 student already, you and your friend would be able to comma= nd your session of choice. Isn't that nice? Don't tell me you can't find ev= en one other person that's interested in larnin' some Linux...

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<= br>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobi= le 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Sa= turday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions.
You should RSV= P to both sessions and hope for the best.
We already have another studen= t RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, plus just one more RSVP would guara= ntee one session to run.

--
David L. Willson
Teac= her, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 = UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time = for a r3VOLution.

Goo= d afternoon.

Well.. based on the the last few sessions..= sounds like I might need to transition to studying on my own?! I don= 't wish to be mis-interpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. class so far= had 3 students. I've only attended the Sun. session once and there w= ere alas only two students??

I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/f= acilitator but if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an opt= ion.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
jb

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson <D= LWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s= ), listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study sessi= on might not run.

At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be co= unted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped.

= Forward this warning as appropriate.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Ne= twork+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
=
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--
= Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?! Are you free?

--=_9a78ab3c-52c1-434f-ac1a-e5ac1aa56c6d-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 00:31:58 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (vj) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1382657518.66528.YahooMailNeo@web140605.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> --1254654340-104628196-1382657518=:66528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello David=0A=0AThank you for having one on one training sessions with me.= =A0=0A=0AI will attend Gary's class on Saturday, hope we still have that != !! =A0I will be attending via web.=0A=0AThanks=0AViji=A0=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Thur= sday, October 24, 2013 4:27 PM, David L. Willson wro= te:=0A =0AI'll add one other thought. You could invite a friend. Since both= sessions are at 1 student already, you and your friend would be able to co= mmand your session of choice. Isn't that nice? Don't tell me you can't find= even one other person that's interested in larnin' some Linux...=0A=0A--= =0ADavid L. Willson=0ATeacher, Engineer, Evangelist=0ARHCE+Satellite CCAH N= etwork+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA=0AMobile 720-333-LANS(5267)=0A= =0AThis is a good time for a r3VOLution.=0A=0A_____________________________= ___=0A=0ASaturday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions.=0A>You shoul= d RSVP to both sessions and hope for the best.=0A>We already have another s= tudent RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, plus just one more RSVP would = guarantee one session to run.=0A>=0A>--=0A>David L. Willson=0A>Teacher, Eng= ineer, Evangelist=0A>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP= NovellCLA=0A>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)=0A>=0A>This is a good time for a r3= VOLution.=0A>=0A>>________________________________=0A>=0A>Good afternoon.= =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Well.. based on the the last few sessions.. sounds like I mi= ght need to transition to studying on my own?! =A0I don't wish to be mis-in= terpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. class so far had 3 students. =A0= I've only attended the Sun. session once and there were alas only two stude= nts??=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/f= acilitator but if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an opt= ion.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Thoughts?=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Thanks,=0A>>jb=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A= >>On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson = wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed= on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might = not run.=0A>>>=0A>>>At 12 hours before each session, students planning to a= ttend will be counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be = skipped.=0A>>>=0A>>>Forward this warning as appropriate.=0A>>>=0A>>>--=0A>>= >David L. Willson=0A>>>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist=0A>>>RHCE+Satellite CC= AH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA=0A>>>Mobile 720-333-LANS(52= 67)=0A>>>=0A>>>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>=0A>>= =0A>>=0A>>-- =0A>>Open source gives freedom from microsoftiness?!=A0 Are yo= u free?=0A>>=0A> --1254654340-104628196-1382657518=:66528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello David

Thank you for having one on one training sessions wit= h me.

I will attend Gary's class on Saturday, hope we still have that !!! = ;I will be attending via web.

Thanks
Viji

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 4:= 27 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

I'll add o= ne other thought. You could invite a friend. Since both sessions are at 1 s= tudent already, you and your friend would be able to command your ses= sion of choice. Isn't that nice? Don't tell me you can't find even one othe= r person that's interested in larnin' some Linux...

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CC= AH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 72= 0-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time f= or a r3VOLution.

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Satu= rday has been over 3 students in 2 of 3 sessions.
Y= ou should RSVP to both sessions and hope for the best.
We already have another = student RSVP'd to both, so your RSVP to both, plus just one more RSVP would= guarantee one session to run.

<= /span>--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engi= neer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ L= PIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<= /span>

Good afternoon.

Well.. base= d on the the last few sessions.. sounds like I might need to transition to studying on my own?! = I don't wish to be mis-interpreted.. but only one time has the Sat. c= lass so far had 3 students. I've only attended the Sun. session once = and there were alas only two students??
=0A

I would like to continue to attend with an instructor/facilitator b= ut if there isn't enough students it doesn't sounds like an option.

Thoughts?

=0AThanks,
jb

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:36 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@th= egeek.nu> wrote:
=0A
Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), = listed on the CC line with your plan to attend, or your free study session = might not run.
=0A
At 12 hours before e= ach session, students planning to attend will be counted, and if there are = not 3 or more, the session will be skipped.

Forward this warning as appropriate.

--
=0ADavid L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Netwo= rk+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LA= NS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3V= OLution.

=0A
=

--
Open source gives freedom from micro= softiness?! Are you free?
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--1254654340-104628196-1382657518=:66528-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 01:14:40 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Anselmi) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:14:40 -0600 Subject: [SFS] IRC In-Reply-To: <8a424c83-30ed-479e-b3c5-4e089260d63c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <8a424c83-30ed-479e-b3c5-4e089260d63c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5269B7F0.9070807@anselmi.us> Gary A. Romero wrote: > Another option for a web client is here: > > http://webchat.freenode.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > > I'm hanging out in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net > > If you have no frickin' clue, or no fIRCin' client, but you want to hang out, use this: > > http://mibbit.com/#sofreeus@irc.freenode.net So freenode says they've banned mibbit (since 2010). It was obvious that my original connection attempt failed. It wasn't obvious that getting there by hand didn't get me where I wanted to be. Using Gary's link I don't see anyone else, so I'm still not sure I'm in the right place. Dave From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 01:19:13 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary A. Romero) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] IRC In-Reply-To: <5269B7F0.9070807@anselmi.us> Message-ID: Sorry Dave, most of us had to leave for other engagements. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Anselmi" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:14:40 PM Subject: Re: [SFS] IRC Gary A. Romero wrote: > Another option for a web client is here: > > http://webchat.freenode.net/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David L. Willson" > > I'm hanging out in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net > > If you have no frickin' clue, or no fIRCin' client, but you want to hang out, use this: > > http://mibbit.com/#sofreeus@irc.freenode.net So freenode says they've banned mibbit (since 2010). It was obvious that my original connection attempt failed. It wasn't obvious that getting there by hand didn't get me where I wanted to be. Using Gary's link I don't see anyone else, so I'm still not sure I'm in the right place. Dave _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 18:09:10 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary Romero) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:09:10 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's Message-ID: All, We have more than enough RSVP's at this point to say that the Saturday class is a definate go. See you all on Saturday morning! Gary Romero On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Gary Romero wrote: > Hey folks, David Willson and I have had some turn out issues the last > two weeks for the study groups so we've decided to implement the > following. > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the CC > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not > run. > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will be > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be skipped. > > Please RSVP if you are attending as soon as possible. > > Thanks, > Gary Romero From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 20:07:13 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] IRC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4aa67b4b-bbde-4af9-95ab-e9ae2df69226@zimbra.thegeek.nu> I'm in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net again, and I see Anselmi, and strangely, neither of us is a channel operator. Which is weird, but strangely freeing. I'm not paying attention most of the time, because meetings... http://webchat.freenode.net/ -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA From sfs@thegeek.nu Fri Oct 25 20:47:38 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Chris Fedde) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:47:38 -0600 Subject: [SFS] IRC In-Reply-To: <4aa67b4b-bbde-4af9-95ab-e9ae2df69226@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <4aa67b4b-bbde-4af9-95ab-e9ae2df69226@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --089e0160bb9ac7469604e99605bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 irssi 'nuff said On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > I'm in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net again, and I see Anselmi, and > strangely, neither of us is a channel operator. Which is weird, but > strangely freeing. I'm not paying attention most of the time, because > meetings... > > http://webchat.freenode.net/ > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --089e0160bb9ac7469604e99605bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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'nuff said

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Da= vid L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:

I'm in #sofreeus on irc.freenode.net again, and I see Ans= elmi, and strangely, neither of us is a channel operator. Which is weird, b= ut strangely freeing. I'm not paying attention most of the time, becaus= e meetings...

http://webchat.f= reenode.net/

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Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA

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--089e0160bb9ac7469604e99605bb-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 27 22:46:22 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 16:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <810859e0-83bc-4804-9f52-bf711d82308c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Unfortunately, not enough RSVP'd students for Sunday. Only one. :-( Sorry for the late notice. I meant to send this at 5AM, but I plumb forgot. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > All, > > We have more than enough RSVP's at this point to say that the > Saturday > class is a definate go. > > See you all on Saturday morning! > > Gary Romero > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Gary Romero > wrote: > > Hey folks, David Willson and I have had some turn out issues the > > last > > two weeks for the study groups so we've decided to implement the > > following. > > > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the > > CC > > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not > > run. > > > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will > > be > > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be > > skipped. > > > > Please RSVP if you are attending as soon as possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Gary Romero > From sfs@thegeek.nu Sun Oct 27 23:24:19 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Gary Romero) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:24:19 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: <810859e0-83bc-4804-9f52-bf711d82308c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <810859e0-83bc-4804-9f52-bf711d82308c@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --089e0141a79c66121804e9c148dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The sonar night one was to be at David's house not at denhac. Sorry for the confusion. On Oct 27, 2013 4:47 PM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > Unfortunately, not enough RSVP'd students for Sunday. Only one. :-( Sorry > for the late notice. I meant to send this at 5AM, but I plumb forgot. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > All, > > > > We have more than enough RSVP's at this point to say that the > > Saturday > > class is a definate go. > > > > See you all on Saturday morning! > > > > Gary Romero > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Gary Romero > > wrote: > > > Hey folks, David Willson and I have had some turn out issues the > > > last > > > two weeks for the study groups so we've decided to implement the > > > following. > > > > > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the > > > CC > > > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not > > > run. > > > > > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will > > > be > > > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be > > > skipped. > > > > > > Please RSVP if you are attending as soon as possible. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Gary Romero > > > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --089e0141a79c66121804e9c148dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The sonar night one was to be at David's house not at de= nhac. Sorry for the confusion.

On Oct 27, 2013 4:47 PM, "David L. Willson&= quot; <DLWillson@thegeek.nu&= gt; wrote:
Unfortunately, not enough RSVP'd students for Sunday. Only one. :-( Sor= ry for the late notice. I meant to send this at 5AM, but I plumb forgot.
--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

----- Original Message -----
> All,
>
> We have more than enough RSVP's at this point to say that the
> Saturday
> class is a definate go.
>
> See you all on Saturday morning!
>
> Gary Romero
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Gary Romero
> <randomincolorado@gma= il.com> wrote:
> > Hey folks, David Willson and I have had some turn out issues the<= br> > > last
> > two weeks for the study groups so we've decided to implement = the
> > following.
> >
> > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on th= e
> > CC
> > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might n= ot
> > run.
> >
> > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will=
> > be
> > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be
> > skipped.
> >
> > Please RSVP if you are attending as soon as possible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary Romero
>
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Romero) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8c8a5e32-6e2b-49e3-96fb-2790423e3ea9@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Correct. I meant Sunday night... Damn you Autocorrect. ---------------------------- Gary (Garheade) Romero "Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "Gary Romero" , "sfs" Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 5:59:34 PM Subject: Re: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's You mean "Sunday" night, not "sonar" night, I think. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Romero Date: 10/27/2013 5:24 PM (GMT-07:00) To: sfs Subject: Re: [SFS] Re: LPI-102 Study Groups: RSVP's The sonar night one was to be at David's house not at denhac. Sorry for the confusion. On Oct 27, 2013 4:47 PM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: Unfortunately, not enough RSVP'd students for Sunday. Only one. :-( Sorry for the late notice. I meant to send this at 5AM, but I plumb forgot. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > All, > > We have more than enough RSVP's at this point to say that the > Saturday > class is a definate go. > > See you all on Saturday morning! > > Gary Romero > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Gary Romero > < randomincolorado@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hey folks, David Willson and I have had some turn out issues the > > last > > two weeks for the study groups so we've decided to implement the > > following. > > > > Warning: RSVP to your LPI-102 Study Group leader(s), listed on the > > CC > > line with your plan to attend, or your free study session might not > > run. > > > > At 12 hours before each session, students planning to attend will > > be > > counted, and if there are not 3 or more, the session will be > > skipped. > > > > Please RSVP if you are attending as soon as possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Gary Romero > _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Mon Oct 28 23:32:35 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Website updates In-Reply-To: <1744016e-e78e-4e26-90b0-0c00ebfa96c3@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_bd248389-a84f-400d-8d30-f81265488ae0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or so. Yo= ur comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you want to con= tribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy know and we'll get = you set up. Do you have pix you'd like to post from Linux Camp? There's a page for that= , now. Wondering what we're doing "Projects" and what we've done "In-the-bag"? The= re are page for most things now. Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several one-on-one's, a f= ew none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I ~would~ have run a clas= s, but I didn't know there were enough interested people until I'd already = cancelled... :-( ), and having been criticized most harshly by those with t= he least invested? There's a blog post for that now. * I really want your feedback here. I don't like the idea of going strictly= for-pay. What about "requested contribution", instead? * Wondering why all SFS materials are creative commons "free libre" and alway= s will be? There's a page for that, too. Still to do: =E2=80=A2 A page for Linux Camp Victory Party (should include a referen= ce for the T-shirt printer, T-shirt tie-dye leader, Ross, an agenda and som= e schedule info...) =E2=80=A2 A page for the current LPI-102 Study Group (realistically, pr= obably won't happen until it's "in the bag"). =E2=80=A2 A post about our intro pod-cast on HPR =E2=80=A2 A page for a Ruby Tuesdays (project) =E2=80=A2 A page for a PostgreSQL (project) =E2=80=A2 A page for a Puppet (project) =E2=80=A2 A page for Gary's Study Group before Linux Camp (in the bag) = Now, I'm sad. I was all proud of having done something, but there's still S= OOO much to do. :-/ Good problem to have, I guess. :-) -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_bd248389-a84f-400d-8d30-f81265488ae0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or so. Y= our comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you want to co= ntribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy know and we'll get= you set up.

Do you have pix you'd like to post from Linux Camp? The= re's a page for that, now.

Wondering what we're doing "Projects" and= what we've done "In-the-bag"? There are page for most things now.

W= onder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several one-on-one's, a fe= w none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I ~would~ have run a class= , but I didn't know there were enough interested people until I'd already c= ancelled... :-( ), and having been criticized most harshly by those with th= e least invested? There's a blog post for that now.
* I really want your= feedback here. I don't like the idea of going strictly for-pay. What about= "requested contribution", instead? *

Wondering why all SFS materia= ls are creative commons "free libre" and always will be? There's a page for= that, too.

Still to do:
A page for Linux Camp Victory Pa= rty (should include a reference for the T-shirt printer, T-shirt tie-dye le= ader, Ross, an agenda and some schedule info...)
A page for the= current LPI-102 Study Group (realistically, probably won't happen until it= 's "in the bag").
A post about our intro pod-cast on HPR
A = page for a Ruby Tuesdays (project)
A page for a PostgreSQL (project= )
A page for a Puppet (project)
A page for Gary's Study Gro= up before Linux Camp (in the bag)
Now, I'm sad. I was all prou= d of having done something, but there's still SOOO much to do. :-/ Good pro= blem to have, I guess. :-)

--
David= L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network= + A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

T= his is a good time for a r3VOLution.

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--=_bd248389-a84f-400d-8d30-f81265488ae0-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 29 00:37:51 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Maxwell Spangler) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:37:51 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Website updates In-Reply-To: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1383007071.29387.59.camel@elite.fossil> --=-zE8/jbGg5YPx5iadqbNY Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 17:32 -0600, David L. Willson wrote: > I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or > so. Your comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you > want to contribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy > know and we'll get you set up. Some constructive criticism for you: You didn't include the website address in this email so I went searching for "Software Freedom Society". I couldn't find it easily. The first item is a meetup you're associated with, but in the notes, it doesn't list the website for Software Freedom Society. Let Google do your marketing for you by helping to connect people with your efforts: * Pick a simple, easy to search for name and use it consistently. From your About page: "SFS stands for Software Freedom School and Society." * Be consistent with your name in order to turn it in to a brand and make it predictable to find and recognize. Is it school or society or both? This is a problem for searching. Perhaps work around it "Software Freedom Society's Training School." In that context, they can always search for "Software Freedom Society" and find the rest. * Whenever you post something related to SFS, include the web address. The more times it shows up other website locations pointing to the real page, the more google will recognize it as important and up the search rankings. * Go off and find places to link to it. Stick it in your .signature, put it in postings elsewhere, add it to directories and listings. * Once you've got a brand out there, protect it and reinforce it. For example, now that you've done one successful Linux Camp, you have the ability to refer to "Software Freedom Society's SECOND ANNUAL Linux Camp" which gives you credit for your past effort. People will make more of an effort to explore someone or something they don't know if it has a track record of success. > Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several > one-on-one's, a few none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I > ~would~ have run a class, but I didn't know there were enough > interested people until I'd already cancelled... :-( ), and having > been criticized most harshly by those with the least invested? There's > a blog post for that now. > * I really want your feedback here. I don't like the idea of going > strictly for-pay. What about "requested contribution", instead? * A lot of people come up with grand visions of spectacular restaurants or other businesses, spend millions to build them and then watch them flop. They overlook the fact that a successful organization is about matching up the vision and intentions with the actual customers and what they want, how they want it and how much they'll pay. The matching is part of the development process. I would suggest this book by Duke University professor Dan Ariely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictably_Irrational Disclosure, I haven't read it yet, but I've heard it and he referred to on a regular basis in regards to how people make decisions regarding products and services. For SFS, you might try continue to recognize people's lack of appreciation for free cost events and try something like this: * Promote a course as you normally would and get people interested * Charge $100 for it and note that it's an incredibly low introductory price[1] to help build the school * Offer them $100 rebate if they compete the source and pass the test. By doing so you've gotten money out of it if they don't make the commitment, you've given them incentives to complete it, and if they are successful then you give them the money back and you've successfully changed someone for the better and run a free course. By operating this way: * You've gained $100 for ongoing efforts if your students don't make the effort or lose interest. So you're still ahead * You've given them incentive to follow the rules, stay on track and make the effort. See "Loss Aversion" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion * If they do what you want, you give them back some or all of the money and you've successfully changed them for the better and operated a free cost event. That seems to be two more of your goals. [1] It helps if you have an MSRP or "List Price" of $500 next to it so people think they're getting something of $500 value for $100. > Now, I'm sad. I was all proud of having done something, but there's > still SOOO much to do. :-/ Good problem to have, I guess. :-) It's a very good problem to have and a good measure that you're actively engaged in something and not sitting around doing nothing. I have this problem with way too many things that I want to learn and not enough time. That list of accomplishments is important because its a source of confidence and momentum for getting the rest of the list done. I have to remind myself of this all the time because often the list includes things that were big challenges but, now completed, don't seem so significant. But they are: 100 units of hard work is still 100 units of hard work completed. I hope this helps! ps. http://blog.eventbrite.com/why-people-dont-value-free-events/ -- Maxwell Spangler ======================================================================== Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services Photography / Graphics Design / Writing Fort Collins, Colorado http://www.maxwellspangler.com --=-zE8/jbGg5YPx5iadqbNY Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 17:32 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:
I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or so. Your comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you want to contribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy know and we'll get you set up.

Some constructive criticism for you:

You didn't include the website address in this email so I went searching for "Software Freedom Society". I couldn't find it easily.

The first item is a meetup you're associated with, but in the notes, it doesn't list the website for Software Freedom Society.

Let Google do your marketing for you by helping to connect people with your efforts:

* Pick a simple, easy to search for name and use it consistently. From your About page:

"SFS stands for Software Freedom School and Society."

* Be consistent with your name in order to turn it in to a brand and make it predictable to find and recognize. Is it school or society or both? This is a problem for searching. Perhaps work around it "Software Freedom Society's Training School." In that context, they can always search for "Software Freedom Society" and find the rest.

* Whenever you post something related to SFS, include the web address. The more times it shows up other website locations pointing to the real page, the more google will recognize it as important and up the search rankings.

* Go off and find places to link to it. Stick it in your .signature, put it in postings elsewhere, add it to directories and listings.

* Once you've got a brand out there, protect it and reinforce it. For example, now that you've done one successful Linux Camp, you have the ability to refer to "Software Freedom Society's SECOND ANNUAL Linux Camp" which gives you credit for your past effort. People will make more of an effort to explore someone or something they don't know if it has a track record of success.

Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several one-on-one's, a few none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I ~would~ have run a class, but I didn't know there were enough interested people until I'd already cancelled... :-( ), and having been criticized most harshly by those with the least invested? There's a blog post for that now.
* I really want your feedback here. I don't like the idea of going strictly for-pay. What about "requested contribution", instead? *

A lot of people come up with grand visions of spectacular restaurants or other businesses, spend millions to build them and then watch them flop. They overlook the fact that a successful organization is about matching up the vision and intentions with the actual customers and what they want, how they want it and how much they'll pay. The matching is part of the development process.

I would suggest this book by Duke University professor Dan Ariely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictably_Irrational

Disclosure, I haven't read it yet, but I've heard it and he referred to on a regular basis in regards to how people make decisions regarding products and services.

For SFS, you might try continue to recognize people's lack of appreciation for free cost events and try something like this:

* Promote a course as you normally would and get people interested

* Charge $100 for it and note that it's an incredibly low introductory price[1] to help build the school

* Offer them $100 rebate if they compete the source and pass the test.

By doing so you've gotten money out of it if they don't make the commitment, you've given them incentives to complete it, and if they are successful then you give them the money back and you've successfully changed someone for the better and run a free course.

By operating this way:

* You've gained $100 for ongoing efforts if your students don't make the effort or lose interest. So you're still ahead
* You've given them incentive to follow the rules, stay on track and make the effort. See "Loss Aversion" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
* If they do what you want, you give them back some or all of the money and you've successfully changed them for the better and operated a free cost event. That seems to be two more of your goals.

[1] It helps if you have an MSRP or "List Price" of $500 next to it so people think they're getting something of $500 value for $100.

Now, I'm sad. I was all proud of having done something, but there's still SOOO much to do. :-/ Good problem to have, I guess. :-)

It's a very good problem to have and a good measure that you're actively engaged in something and not sitting around doing nothing. I have this problem with way too many things that I want to learn and not enough time.

That list of accomplishments is important because its a source of confidence and momentum for getting the rest of the list done. I have to remind myself of this all the time because often the list includes things that were big challenges but, now completed, don't seem so significant. But they are: 100 units of hard work is still 100 units of hard work completed.

I hope this helps!

ps. http://blog.eventbrite.com/why-people-dont-value-free-events/

--
Maxwell Spangler
========================================================================
Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services
Photography / Graphics Design / Writing
Fort Collins, Colorado
http://www.maxwellspangler.com

--=-zE8/jbGg5YPx5iadqbNY-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 29 00:38:13 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Maxwell Spangler) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:38:13 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Website updates In-Reply-To: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1383007093.29387.60.camel@elite.fossil> --=-n1VSokDgkMN5JJoOvHSX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 17:32 -0600, David L. Willson wrote: > I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or > so. Your comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you > want to contribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy > know and we'll get you set up. Some constructive criticism for you: You didn't include the website address in this email so I went searching for "Software Freedom Society". I couldn't find it easily. The first item is a meetup you're associated with, but in the notes, it doesn't list the website for Software Freedom Society. Let Google do your marketing for you by helping to connect people with your efforts: * Pick a simple, easy to search for name and use it consistently. From your About page: "SFS stands for Software Freedom School and Society." * Be consistent with your name in order to turn it in to a brand and make it predictable to find and recognize. Is it school or society or both? This is a problem for searching. Perhaps work around it "Software Freedom Society's Training School." In that context, they can always search for "Software Freedom Society" and find the rest. * Whenever you post something related to SFS, include the web address. The more times it shows up other website locations pointing to the real page, the more google will recognize it as important and up the search rankings. * Go off and find places to link to it. Stick it in your .signature, put it in postings elsewhere, add it to directories and listings. * Once you've got a brand out there, protect it and reinforce it. For example, now that you've done one successful Linux Camp, you have the ability to refer to "Software Freedom Society's SECOND ANNUAL Linux Camp" which gives you credit for your past effort. People will make more of an effort to explore someone or something they don't know if it has a track record of success. > Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several > one-on-one's, a few none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I > ~would~ have run a class, but I didn't know there were enough > interested people until I'd already cancelled... :-( ), and having > been criticized most harshly by those with the least invested? There's > a blog post for that now. > * I really want your feedback here. I don't like the idea of going > strictly for-pay. What about "requested contribution", instead? * A lot of people come up with grand visions of spectacular restaurants or other businesses, spend millions to build them and then watch them flop. They overlook the fact that a successful organization is about matching up the vision and intentions with the actual customers and what they want, how they want it and how much they'll pay. The matching is part of the development process. I would suggest this book by Duke University professor Dan Ariely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictably_Irrational Disclosure, I haven't read it yet, but I've heard it and he referred to on a regular basis in regards to how people make decisions regarding products and services. For SFS, you might try continue to recognize people's lack of appreciation for free cost events and try something like this: * Promote a course as you normally would and get people interested * Charge $100 for it and note that it's an incredibly low introductory price[1] to help build the school * Offer them $100 rebate if they compete the source and pass the test. By doing so you've gotten money out of it if they don't make the commitment, you've given them incentives to complete it, and if they are successful then you give them the money back and you've successfully changed someone for the better and run a free course. By operating this way: * You've gained $100 for ongoing efforts if your students don't make the effort or lose interest. So you're still ahead * You've given them incentive to follow the rules, stay on track and make the effort. See "Loss Aversion" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion * If they do what you want, you give them back some or all of the money and you've successfully changed them for the better and operated a free cost event. That seems to be two more of your goals. [1] It helps if you have an MSRP or "List Price" of $500 next to it so people think they're getting something of $500 value for $100. > Now, I'm sad. I was all proud of having done something, but there's > still SOOO much to do. :-/ Good problem to have, I guess. :-) It's a very good problem to have and a good measure that you're actively engaged in something and not sitting around doing nothing. I have this problem with way too many things that I want to learn and not enough time. That list of accomplishments is important because its a source of confidence and momentum for getting the rest of the list done. I have to remind myself of this all the time because often the list includes things that were big challenges but, now completed, don't seem so significant. But they are: 100 units of hard work is still 100 units of hard work completed. I hope this helps! ps. http://blog.eventbrite.com/why-people-dont-value-free-events/ -- Maxwell Spangler ======================================================================== Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services Photography / Graphics Design / Writing Fort Collins, Colorado http://www.maxwellspangler.com -- Maxwell Spangler ======================================================================== Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services Photography / Graphics Design / Writing Fort Collins, Colorado http://www.maxwellspangler.com --=-n1VSokDgkMN5JJoOvHSX Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mon, 2013-10-28 at 17:32 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:

I put up some new posts and pages on the website in the last week or so. Your comments, feedback, emails, or whatever, are welcome. If you want to contribute to the website directly, let me or Gary or Troy know and we'll get you set up.

Some constructive criticism for you:

You didn't include the website address in this email so I went searching for "Software Freedom Society". I couldn't find it easily.

The first item is a meetup you're associated with, but in the notes, it doesn't list the website for Software Freedom Society.

Let Google do your marketing for you by helping to connect people with your efforts:

* Pick a simple, easy to search for name and use it consistently. From your About page:

"SFS stands for Software Freedom School and Society."

* Be consistent with your name in order to turn it in to a brand and make it predictable to find and recognize. Is it school or society or both? This is a problem for searching. Perhaps work around it "Software Freedom Society's Training School." In that context, they can always search for "Software Freedom Society" and find the rest.

* Whenever you post something related to SFS, include the web address. The more times it shows up other website locations pointing to the real page, the more google will recognize it as important and up the search rankings.

* Go off and find places to link to it. Stick it in your .signature, put it in postings elsewhere, add it to directories and listings.

* Once you've got a brand out there, protect it and reinforce it. For example, now that you've done one successful Linux Camp, you have the ability to refer to "Software Freedom Society's SECOND ANNUAL Linux Camp" which gives you credit for your past effort. People will make more of an effort to explore someone or something they don't know if it has a track record of success.

Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several one-on-one's, a few none-on-one's and none-on-none's (That's where I ~would~ have run a class, but I didn't know there were enough interested people until I'd already cancelled... :-( ), and having been criticized most harshly by those with the least invested? There's a blog post for that now.
* I really want your feedback here. I don't like the idea of going strictly for-pay. What about "requested contribution", instead? *

A lot of people come up with grand visions of spectacular restaurants or other businesses, spend millions to build them and then watch them flop. They overlook the fact that a successful organization is about matching up the vision and intentions with the actual customers and what they want, how they want it and how much they'll pay. The matching is part of the development process.

I would suggest this book by Duke University professor Dan Ariely:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictably_Irrational

Disclosure, I haven't read it yet, but I've heard it and he referred to on a regular basis in regards to how people make decisions regarding products and services.

For SFS, you might try continue to recognize people's lack of appreciation for free cost events and try something like this:

* Promote a course as you normally would and get people interested

* Charge $100 for it and note that it's an incredibly low introductory price[1] to help build the school

* Offer them $100 rebate if they compete the source and pass the test.

By doing so you've gotten money out of it if they don't make the commitment, you've given them incentives to complete it, and if they are successful then you give them the money back and you've successfully changed someone for the better and run a free course.

By operating this way:

* You've gained $100 for ongoing efforts if your students don't make the effort or lose interest. So you're still ahead
* You've given them incentive to follow the rules, stay on track and make the effort. See "Loss Aversion" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion
* If they do what you want, you give them back some or all of the money and you've successfully changed them for the better and operated a free cost event. That seems to be two more of your goals.

[1] It helps if you have an MSRP or "List Price" of $500 next to it so people think they're getting something of $500 value for $100.

Now, I'm sad. I was all proud of having done something, but there's still SOOO much to do. :-/ Good problem to have, I guess. :-)

It's a very good problem to have and a good measure that you're actively engaged in something and not sitting around doing nothing. I have this problem with way too many things that I want to learn and not enough time.

That list of accomplishments is important because its a source of confidence and momentum for getting the rest of the list done. I have to remind myself of this all the time because often the list includes things that were big challenges but, now completed, don't seem so significant. But they are: 100 units of hard work is still 100 units of hard work completed.

I hope this helps!

ps. http://blog.eventbrite.com/why-people-dont-value-free-events/

--
Maxwell Spangler
========================================================================
Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services
Photography / Graphics Design / Writing
Fort Collins, Colorado
http://www.maxwellspangler.com

--
Maxwell Spangler
========================================================================
Linux System Administration / Virtualization / Development / Computing Services
Photography / Graphics Design / Writing
Fort Collins, Colorado
http://www.maxwellspangler.com

--=-n1VSokDgkMN5JJoOvHSX-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 29 02:36:12 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Anselmi) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:36:12 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Website updates In-Reply-To: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <3922dcc1-af7f-4add-a3bd-0518d5d76214@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <526F1F1C.1070309@anselmi.us> David L. Willson wrote: > > Wonder how I feel about "free gratis" after doing several one-on-one's, a few none-on-one's and > none-on-none's (That's where I ~would~ have run a class, but I didn't know there were enough > interested people until I'd already cancelled... :-( ), and having been criticized most harshly > by those with the least invested? There's a blog post for that now. "Most relevant to this part of my life, every time I give a free class, my students show up late if they show up at all, they fail to focus, leave early, and fail to take the certification exam. When I sell the seats, the students show up, focus up, and sometimes they even try for the certification. It seems that they value the class according to cost, rather than it’s potential benefit."[1] What you, and Max, have said is probably relevant to your efforts. And probably charging for your events will help you achieve your goals. To me though the significant thing about a price is not that people think your class is valuable but that it filters out those who don't. For example, I should have come to your study group last week (and would have, late, yesterday if it had happened). But if there had been a price I wouldn't even have thought about it because I don't value an LPI cert and won't spend the time to study or take the exam. I would have come for some fellowship, some curiosity about the material and process, and the off chance that I might be able to help someone learn. I'm not really the person you want at your study group and a price tag would keep me away. That helps to ensure you don't get distractions from people who don't share your objectives. Dave From sfs@thegeek.nu Tue Oct 29 22:40:20 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Troy R. Ridgley) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! In-Reply-To: <9ea79b41-fc83-40d6-8334-982313419b79@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <01164d46-de59-421d-885f-a7231ce796c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Hey SFS! Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an Ask us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling brave join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we can and put the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio (hackerpublicradio.org) If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our show later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu I will send out more info if you are interested. Thanks! Troy Ridgley SFS-Monkey From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 30 19:01:02 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David Whitman) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:01:02 -0700 Subject: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! In-Reply-To: <01164d46-de59-421d-885f-a7231ce796c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> References: <9ea79b41-fc83-40d6-8334-982313419b79@zimbra.thegeek.nu> <01164d46-de59-421d-885f-a7231ce796c5@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --047d7b6dcbe063314404e9f9f499 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What time is the mumble cast? (UTC) davidWHITMAN On Oct 29, 2013 3:41 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley" wrote: > Hey SFS! > > Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an Ask > us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling brave > join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we can and put > the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio (hackerpublicradio.org) > > If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our show > later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu > > I will send out more info if you are interested. > > Thanks! > > Troy Ridgley > SFS-Monkey > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --047d7b6dcbe063314404e9f9f499 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What time is the mumble cast? (UTC)

davidWHITMAN

On Oct 29, 2013 3:41 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley&q= uot; <trridgley@thegeek.nu&g= t; wrote:
Hey SFS!

Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an = Ask us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling= brave join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we = can and put the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio (hackerpublicradio.org)

If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our sh= ow later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu

I will send out more info if you are interested.

Thanks!

Troy Ridgley
SFS-Monkey
_______________________________________________
SFS mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

--047d7b6dcbe063314404e9f9f499-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 30 19:49:24 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (Troy R. Ridgley) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:49:24 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I will be around 7pm MST ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Whitman" To: sfs@thegeek.nu Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:01:02 PM Subject: Re: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! What time is the mumble cast? (UTC) davidWHITMAN On Oct 29, 2013 3:41 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley" < trridgley@thegeek.nu > wrote: Hey SFS! Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an Ask us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling brave join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we can and put the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio ( hackerpublicradio.org ) If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our show later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu I will send out more info if you are interested. Thanks! Troy Ridgley SFS-Monkey _______________________________________________ SFS mailing list SFS@thegeek.nu http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs From sfs@thegeek.nu Wed Oct 30 22:14:20 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David Whitman) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:14:20 -0700 Subject: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --001a11c3329cb8daaa04e9fca77b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 UTC -7 then. OK I will try to get on. Loved the SFS HPR episode davidWHITMAN On Oct 30, 2013 12:50 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley" wrote: > I will be around 7pm MST > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Whitman" > To: sfs@thegeek.nu > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:01:02 PM > Subject: Re: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys! > > > > What time is the mumble cast? (UTC) > > davidWHITMAN > On Oct 29, 2013 3:41 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley" < trridgley@thegeek.nu > wrote: > > > Hey SFS! > > Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an Ask > us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling brave > join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we can and put > the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio ( hackerpublicradio.org ) > > If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our show > later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu > > I will send out more info if you are interested. > > Thanks! > > Troy Ridgley > SFS-Monkey > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > _______________________________________________ > SFS mailing list > SFS@thegeek.nu > http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs > --001a11c3329cb8daaa04e9fca77b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
UTC -7 then. OK I will try to get on. Loved the SFS HPR epis= ode

davidWHITMAN

On Oct 30, 2013 12:50 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley&= quot; <trridgley@thegeek.nu&= gt; wrote:
I will be around 7pm MST

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Whitman" <davidglennwhitman@gmail.com>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:01:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SFS] Q&A with the SFS Monkeys!

What time is the mumble cast? (UTC)

davidWHITMAN
On Oct 29, 2013 3:41 PM, "Troy R. Ridgley" < trridgley@thegeek.nu > wrote:

Hey SFS!

Next Thursday(Nov 7th), on the SFS Monkeys Podcast, we'd like to do an = Ask us Anything! Email us, Get on our IRC channel, or if you're feeling= brave join our Mumble server and ask away. We'll answer as much as we = can and put the whole show up on Hacker Public Radio ( hackerpublicradio.org )

If you won't be available that day, but you plan on listening to our sh= ow later email us your questions to SFS-Monkey@thegeek.nu

I will send out more info if you are interested.

Thanks!

Troy Ridgley
SFS-Monkey
_______________________________________________
SFS mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs
_______________________________________________
SFS mailing list
SFS@thegeek.nu
http://mailman.thegeek.nu/mailman/listinfo/sfs

--001a11c3329cb8daaa04e9fca77b-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 31 02:49:14 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] LPI-102 Study Group: RSVP's, please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <730703e2-4b92-4223-8f74-4ef8feb62d12@zimbra.thegeek.nu> --=_44402f21-9aca-4f84-b94b-41b1419374e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the LAST weekend of the LPI-102 Study Group series! Please RSVP for the session you plan to attend, Saturday, 9AM or Sunday, 5PM. Please read and do the exercises and questions of chapter 10 before your study group, so you can bring your questions and know which areas you need to focus on. There is Scotch whiskey if you RSVP and show up in person at the Sunday session. Just sayin'. :-) -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_44402f21-9aca-4f84-b94b-41b1419374e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is the LAST weekend of the LPI-102 Study Group series!

Please RSVP for the session you plan to attend, Saturday, 9AM or Sunday, 5PM.

Please read and do the exercises and questions of chapter 10 before your study group, so you can bring your questions and know which areas you need to focus on.

There is Scotch whiskey if you RSVP and show up in person at the Sunday session. Just sayin'. :-)

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

--=_44402f21-9aca-4f84-b94b-41b1419374e8-- From sfs@thegeek.nu Thu Oct 31 23:45:00 2013 From: sfs@thegeek.nu (David L. Willson) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:45:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] OpenStack and Little Computers - discussion In-Reply-To: <15d5e7be-5111-4397-8a0c-1e1f1739a94d@zimbra.thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --=_f8e7bf99-f9c2-47c8-a6d3-da2f8fae26cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends of Software Freedom, lend me your ears (eyes), I'm thinking I'd like to do two full-day events on the same day or at least the same weekend: Little Computers and OpenStack. I see Little Computers Day as an all-day event in a big room with 3+ laptops, 3+ Arduino's, 3+ Raspberry Pi's, 3+ BeagleBone Black's, some LED's, some little geeks, some big geeks, some poorly-written docs, and an Internet connection. I'd like to see at least 4-6 show-and-tells happen at scheduled times, but otherwise, it'd be a free-for-all. Pay-what-you-like, with a suggested gift of $50, and SFS provides everything. I see OpenStack Day as an all-day, instructor-led OpenStack cluster build day. Obi Wan Mike Nolte would be lecturing, leading, and providing all the gear. You just show up. This too, could be pay-what-you-like, with a suggested gift of $50, BUT, because I want 12 committed students for this one, OpenStack would have a $50 seat deposit, which you can get back at the end of the day (or you can gift it to us). What do you think of these event ideas? Do you want to come to either or both? Will you actually show up? If so, how does the weekend of December 14th and 15th look for you? Do you have some good ideas or talent to throw in the mix? -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --=_f8e7bf99-f9c2-47c8-a6d3-da2f8fae26cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'= >Friends of Software Freedom, lend me your ears (eyes),

I'm th= inking I'd like to do two full-day events on the same day or at least the s= ame weekend: Little Computers and OpenStack.

I see Little Compute= rs Day as an all-day event in a big room with 3+ laptops, 3+ Arduino's,= 3+ Raspberry Pi's, 3+ BeagleBone Black's, some LED's, some little geeks, s= ome big geeks, some poorly-written docs, and an Internet connection. I'd li= ke to see at least 4-6 show-and-tells happen at scheduled times, but otherw= ise, it'd be a free-for-all. Pay-what-you-like, with a suggested gift of $5= 0, and SFS provides everything.

I see OpenStack Day as an all= -day, instructor-led OpenStack cluster build day. Obi Wan Mike Nolte would = be lecturing, leading, and providing all the gear. You just show up. This t= oo, could be pay-what-you-like, with a suggested gift of $50, BUT, because = I want 12 committed students for this one, OpenStack would have a $50 seat = deposit, which you can get back at the end of the day (or you can gift it t= o us).

What do you think of these event ideas? Do you want to come t= o either or both? Will you actually show up? If so, how does the weekend of= December 14th and 15th look for you? Do you have some good ideas or talent= to throw in the mix?

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David L. Willson=
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+= LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)

This is a go= od time for a r3VOLution.

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Subject:	Linux Camp Victory Party
Organizer:	"David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>

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Time:	Saturday, November 23, 2013, 9:00:00 AM - 10:00:00 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain

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