Fwd: [SFS] On Security: Reset the Net & FFTF

Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:50:17 -0600 (MDT)

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Andy sent a few links in response to my question. I found the first one interesting, but be warned that the language is spicy. I haven't thoroughly investigated the others yet, but I thought you all might find them interesting, nonetheless. 

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David L. Willson 
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist 
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA 
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) 
http://sofree.us 

This is a good time for a r3VOLution. 

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> The problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU

> Proposed solutions (other than legislative):
> https://www.outernet.is/

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGH40oUVDY
> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecomix

> https://www.torproject.org/
> https://tails.boum.org/

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, David L. Willson <
> DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote:

> > There's a question that's been perplexing me for a while, with
> > which
> > I want your helpful insights, but it needs a little setup.
> 

> > The NSA is evil, not our friends, our enemies in effect, if not in
> > intent. The people are more spied upon than they understood
> > pre-Snowden, and the NSA did not act to clear up the
> > misunderstanding. A misunderstanding between un-related parties
> > seems OK under certain circumstances, like when you get a "steal"
> > at
> > a garage sale. You might choose not to inform the person from whom
> > you buy a valuable antique about it's market value. But, between
> > friends there is a reasonable expectation of mutual loyalty. The
> > NSA's very purpose is to protect the people, like a big, hairy,
> > thuggish friend, so... long story short: they're evil. Just my
> > opinion. You don't have to agree.
> 

> > The people want to protect themselves from their enemies. Duh. No
> > explanation needed.
> 

> > Encryption works. This is why the NSA does "tap and gag" operations
> > against major providers, turning them from our friends into their
> > head-banging zombie bodyguards. They can't crack the encryption, so
> > they do what crackers do, and crack the meat, the people involved.
> > Unlike the regular sort of cracker, the NSA can use the judicial
> > system as part of it's arsenal. The meat can no longer defend
> > itself
> > or it's friends; it has no choice but to fold the business or yield
> > to the attack. examples: Lavabit folded. Truecrypt what? Facebook,
> > Microsoft, and Google yielded.
> 

> > So ... FFTF and Reset the Net launch an effort to get lots of
> > providers and lots of individuals to encrypt. Makes sense, right?
> > Right. But...
> 

> > How does this *not* create a false sense of safety? How does this
> > *not* leave us entirely vulnerable to the NSA running a "tap and
> > gag" on the newly-encrypted, people-friendly provider, turning them
> > into a HBZBG or just killing them outright?
> 

> > That is not meant as a rhetorical question. I hope that someone at
> > FFTF or Reset The Net or one of you thought of this, and has an
> > answer . But maybe there's no answer, in which case...
> 

> > We the people have no choice but to appeal to the legislative
> > system
> > for relief from "tap and gag" operations, for a renewed commitment
> > to the right to privacy, or failing that, a renewed commitment to
> > the right to free speech. I have little hope of success with this
> > strategy, but it may be the only remaining peaceful solution.
> 

> > It's possible I've overlooked something. In fact, I kinda hope I
> > have.
> 

> > Disclaimer: This is my own opinion, and my own question therefrom.
> > Let my associates speak for themselves.
> 

> > --
> 
> > David "free hacker" Willson
> 
> > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> 

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div style=3D'font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'=
><span>Andy sent a few links in response to my question. I found the first =
one interesting, but be warned that the language is spicy. I haven't thorou=
ghly investigated the others yet, but I thought you all might find them int=
eresting, nonetheless.<br><br><span name=3D"x"></span>--<br>David L. Willso=
n<br>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux=
+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br>http://sofree.u=
s<br><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span name=3D"x"></span><br><=
/span><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(1=
6, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;=
font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:12pt;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The problem:</div><span style=3D"=
color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:underline"><a href=3D"https://www.yout=
ube.com/watch?v=3DvILAlhwUgIU" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/wa=
tch?v=3DvILAlhwUgIU</a></span><div><br></div>
<div>Proposed solutions (other than legislative):</div><div><a href=3D"http=
s://www.outernet.is/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.outernet.is/</a><br></d=
iv><div><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRdGH40oUVDY" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRdGH40oUVDY</a><br>
</div><a href=3D"http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan</a><br><div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia=
.org/wiki/Telecomix" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom=
ix</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.torproject.org/" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.torproject.org/</a></div>
<div><a href=3D"https://tails.boum.org/" target=3D"_blank">https://tails.bo=
um.org/</a><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, David L. Willson <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target=3D"_blank">DLW=
illson@thegeek.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Times New Rom=
an;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><span>There's a question that's been perpl=
exing me for a while, with which I want your helpful insights, but it needs=
 a little setup.<br>
<br>The NSA is evil, not our friends, our enemies in effect, if not in inte=
nt. The people are more spied upon than they understood pre-Snowden, and th=
e NSA did not act to clear up the misunderstanding. A misunderstanding betw=
een un-related parties seems OK under certain circumstances, like when you =
get a "steal" at a garage sale. You might choose not to inform the person f=
rom whom you buy a valuable antique about it's market value. But, between f=
riends there is a reasonable expectation of mutual loyalty. The NSA's very =
purpose is to protect the people, like a big, hairy, thuggish friend, so...=
 long story short: they're evil. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree.<=
br>
<br></span><span><span>The people want to protect themselves from their ene=
mies. Duh. No explanation needed.<br><br></span>Encryption works. This is w=
hy the NSA does "tap and gag" operations against major providers, turning t=
hem from our friends into their head-banging zombie bodyguards. They can't =
crack the encryption, so they do what crackers do, and crack the meat, the =
people involved. Unlike the regular sort of cracker, the NSA can use the ju=
dicial system as part of it's arsenal.&nbsp; The meat can no longer defend =
itself or it's friends; it has no choice but to fold the business or yield =
to the attack. examples: Lavabit folded. Truecrypt what? Facebook, Microsof=
t, and Google yielded.<br>
<br>So ... FFTF and Reset the Net launch an effort to get lots of providers=
 and lots of individuals to encrypt. Makes sense, right? Right. But...<br><=
br>How does this *not* create a false sense of safety? How does this *not* =
leave us entirely vulnerable to the NSA running a "tap and gag" on the newl=
y-encrypted, people-friendly provider, turning them into a HBZBG or just ki=
lling them outright?<br>
<br>That is not meant as a rhetorical question. I hope that someone at FFTF=
 or Reset The Net or one of you </span><span><span>thought of this, and has=
 an answer</span>. But maybe there's no answer, in which case...<br>
<br>We the people have no choice but to appeal to the legislative system fo=
r relief from "tap and gag" operations, for a renewed commitment to the rig=
ht to privacy, or failing that, a renewed commitment to the right to free s=
peech. I have little hope of success with this strategy, but it may be the =
only remaining peaceful solution.<br>
<br>It's possible I've overlooked something. In fact, I kinda hope I have.<=
br><br>Disclaimer: This is my own opinion, and my own question therefrom. L=
et my associates speak for themselves.<br><br><span></span>--<br>
David "free hacker" Willson<br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span><=
/span></span><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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