From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Mon Sep 18 09:51:11 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 02:51:11 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <23140869.40.1505724668358.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <11229040.44.1505724671452.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> ------=_Part_43_28757616.1505724671450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old. Affected systems are: - zimbra.thegeek.nu - zimbra.sofree.us - mailman.thegeek.nu - fishes.sofree.us My plan is to configure daily backups today. There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ------=_Part_43_28757616.1505724671450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = 12pt; color: #000000'>I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore = from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affected systems = are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure daily backups today.
There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the s= ystem that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem= with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange = things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive stop= ped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up du= ring or near backups, take the backups manually and often.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist=
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us=

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

------=_Part_43_28757616.1505724671450-- From spstrong@gmail.com Tue Sep 19 21:27:56 2017 From: spstrong@gmail.com (Stephen Strong) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:27:56 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Upcoming Events: OpenStack x3, NextCloud Message-ID: --f403045edbb0d84a41055990b1ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" For October's Software Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a second delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack. * Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/openstack-by-david-willson/ * Price: $32 or PWYC And for the 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It should be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think. * no link yet * Price: $64 or PWYC For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud. NextCloud is better than DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's even better than OwnCloud. * Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcloud-by-mike-shoup/ * Price: $16 or PWYC See you soon! -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. --f403045edbb0d84a41055990b1ac Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
For October's Software Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a
second delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack.
* Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/openstack-by-david-willson/
* Price: $32 or PWYC

And for the 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It
should be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think.
* no link yet
* Price: $64 or PWYC

For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud. NextCloud is better than
DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's even better than OwnCloud.
* Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcloud-by-mike-shoup/
* Price: $16 or PWYC

See you soon!

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
--f403045edbb0d84a41055990b1ac-- From chris@fedde.us Tue Sep 19 21:54:49 2017 From: chris@fedde.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:54:49 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <11229040.44.1505724671452.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <23140869.40.1505724668358.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> <11229040.44.1505724671452.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --001a11442f20f370d705599111ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and security in another. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson wrote: > I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but > the backup was three weeks old. > > Affected systems are: > - zimbra.thegeek.nu > - zimbra.sofree.us > - mailman.thegeek.nu > - fishes.sofree.us > > My plan is to configure daily backups today. > > There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the > system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a > problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can > re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard > drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system > locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > http://sofree.us > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > --001a11442f20f370d705599111ec Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Backups are such a pain until you need them.=C2=A0 I'm= still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the m= ost part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud: =C2=A0VPS, =C2= =A0Gitlab, Google Drive.=C2=A0 I suppose I land on a different part of the = Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and security in another. = =C2=A0

On Mo= n, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu= > wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but th= e backup was three weeks old.

Affected systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
-= mailman.thegeek.nu=
- fishes.sofr= ee.us

My plan is to configure daily backups today.

There&= #39;s a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the system t= hat I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with t= he backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange th= ings", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive s= topped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up= during or near backups, take the backups manually and often.

<= span name=3D"x">--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangel= ist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a goo= d time for a r3VOLution.

<= /blockquote>

--001a11442f20f370d705599111ec-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Tue Sep 19 22:06:58 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> ------=_Part_6536_2029281.1505855218740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. - no regular backups - no RAID - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like me. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump > to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care > about is somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I > suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that has > reliability in one circle and security in another. > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson < > DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: > > I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, > > but the backup was three weeks old. > > > Affected systems are: > > > - zimbra.thegeek.nu > > > - zimbra.sofree.us > > > - mailman.thegeek.nu > > > - fishes.sofree.us > > > My plan is to configure daily backups today. > > > There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up > > the > > system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as > > a > > problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I > > can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, > > when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the > > backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the > > backups manually and often. > > > -- > > > David L. Willson > > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > > > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > http://sofree.us > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > ------=_Part_6536_2029281.1505855218740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = 12pt; color: #000000'>Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways.

- no = regular backups
- no RAID
- poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis
<= br>I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep = a special fellow like me.

--
David L= . Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mob= ile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a= r3VOLution.


Backups= are such a pain until you need them.  I'm still running a dump to a u= sb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is som= ewhere in the cloud:  VPS,  Gitlab, Google Drive.  I suppose= I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one= circle and security in another.  
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Wills= on <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able = to restore from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affect= ed systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure da= ily backups today.

There's a funny story here about a failing hard d= rive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagn= osing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "un= til I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, whe= n the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If t= he system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and of= ten.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, = Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This i= s a good time for a r3VOLution.



------=_Part_6536_2029281.1505855218740-- From daniel@kulinski.net Tue Sep 19 22:22:01 2017 From: daniel@kulinski.net (Dan Kulinski) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:22:01 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --001a114031e8a32db60559917569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Failure is one of the best teachers. I am also moving the way cfedde is and moving more into public repositories and provisioning with ansible. I also have a VPS that backups personal documents although this is a simple rsync and I would like to expand it to backup my wife's windows laptop. Since we are on the topic of backups, if people on this list have Windows machines, how do they handle backups? On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. > > - no regular backups > - no RAID > - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis > > I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a > special fellow like me. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > http://sofree.us > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------ > > Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to > a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is > somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a > different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and > security in another. > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson > wrote: > >> I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but >> the backup was three weeks old. >> >> Affected systems are: >> - zimbra.thegeek.nu >> - zimbra.sofree.us >> - mailman.thegeek.nu >> - fishes.sofree.us >> >> My plan is to configure daily backups today. >> >> There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the >> system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a >> problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can >> re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard >> drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system >> locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> http://sofree.us >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> > > --001a114031e8a32db60559917569 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Failure is one of the best teachers.=C2=A0 I am also movin= g the way cfedde is and moving more into public repositories and provisioni= ng with ansible.=C2=A0 I also have a VPS that backups personal documents al= though this is a simple rsync and I would like to expand it to backup my wi= fe's windows laptop.=C2=A0 Since we are on the topic of backups, if peo= ple on this list have Windows machines, how do they handle backups?

On Tue, Sep 19, 201= 7 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wro= te:
Yeah. I screwe= d this up at least 3 ways.

- no regular backups
- no RAID
- po= or problem diagnosis and diagnosis

I'm always grateful when I fi= nd a place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like me.

--
David L. WillsonTeacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333= -LANS(5267)
http://sofree= .us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.


Backups are such a pain until you need them.=C2=A0 I'm still r= unning a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part= the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud: =C2=A0VPS, =C2=A0Gitlab,= Google Drive.=C2=A0 I suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagr= am that has reliability in one circle and security in another. =C2=A0
=

On Mon, Sep 18, 2= 017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> w= rote:
I lost a har= d drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but the backup was = three weeks old.

Affected systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us
=
My plan is to configure daily backups today.

There's a funny= story here about a failing hard drive locking up the system that I had *ju= st* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup scr= ipt, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange things", w= hich turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive stopped workin= g completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up during or ne= ar backups, take the backups manually and often.

-= -
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHC= E CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLutio= n.




--001a114031e8a32db60559917569-- From dlwillson@sofree.us Tue Sep 19 22:23:20 2017 From: dlwillson@sofree.us (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:23:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1615712676.906.1505856200597.JavaMail.zimbra@sofree.us> ------=_Part_905_1398445692.1505856200595 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I meant "diagnosis and handling". Not "diagnosis and diagnosis". -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "Chris Fedde" Cc: "sfs" Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:06:58 PM Subject: Re: [SFS] Server Status Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. - no regular backups - no RAID - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like me. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and security in another. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old. Affected systems are: - zimbra.thegeek.nu - zimbra.sofree.us - mailman.thegeek.nu - fishes.sofree.us My plan is to configure daily backups today. There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
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I meant "diagnosis and handling"= . Not "diagnosis and diagnosis". <sigh>

= --
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evange= list
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofre= e.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.


From: "David L. Willson"= <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>
To: "Chris Fedde" <chris@fedde.u= s>
Cc: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Tuesday, S= eptember 19, 2017 3:06:58 PM
Subject: Re: [SFS] Server Status
=

Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways.

=
- no regular backups
- no RAID
- poor problem diagnosis and dia= gnosis

I'm always grateful when I find a place that's wil= ling to hire and keep a special fellow like me.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFC= S CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Backups are such a pain until you need them.  I'm still r= unning a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff= I care about is somewhere in the cloud:  VPS,  Gitlab, Google Dr= ive.  I suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that ha= s reliability in one circle and security in another.  

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:5= 1 AM, David L. Willson <D= LWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a ha= rd drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but the backup was= three weeks old.

Affected systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us=
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure dai= ly backups today.

There's a funny story here about a fail= ing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, an= d me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the b= ackups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks = later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the bac= kups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manua= lly and often.

--
David L. WillsonTeacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333= -LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good= time for a r3VOLution.

=



------=_Part_905_1398445692.1505856200595-- From chris@fedde.us Tue Sep 19 22:30:31 2017 From: chris@fedde.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:30:31 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --089e08215428a0de660559919148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I want to learn something about systemd-machined and systemd-nspawn. When is your next working day in the comfy room? I'd like to have a couple of smart people to chat this stuff over with. Patterns for container deployment in production. I've been playing with lxd as well. Docker is cool and all but suffers a lot from being heavy on the dev and light on the ops. Or so it seems to me chris --089e08215428a0de660559919148 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want to learn something about systemd-machined and syste= md-nspawn.=C2=A0 When is your next working day in the comfy room?=C2=A0 I&#= 39;d like to have a couple of smart people to chat this stuff over with.=C2= =A0 Patterns for container deployment in production.

I&#= 39;ve been playing with lxd as well. =C2=A0 Docker is cool and all but suff= ers a lot from being heavy on the dev and light on the ops.

<= /div>
Or so it seems to me
chris
--089e08215428a0de660559919148-- From dlwillson@sofree.us Tue Sep 19 22:32:09 2017 From: dlwillson@sofree.us (David L. Willson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1034764812.945.1505856729173.JavaMail.zimbra@sofree.us> ------=_Part_944_627427826.1505856729171 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a *beautiful* script for launching ntbackup.exe. Does Windows still have that? -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Kulinski" To: "sfs" Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:22:01 PM Subject: Re: [SFS] Server Status Failure is one of the best teachers. I am also moving the way cfedde is and moving more into public repositories and provisioning with ansible. I also have a VPS that backups personal documents although this is a simple rsync and I would like to expand it to backup my wife's windows laptop. Since we are on the topic of backups, if people on this list have Windows machines, how do they handle backups? On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote: Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. - no regular backups - no RAID - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like me. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and security in another. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old. Affected systems are: - zimbra.thegeek.nu - zimbra.sofree.us - mailman.thegeek.nu - fishes.sofree.us My plan is to configure daily backups today. There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
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I have a *beautiful* script for = launching ntbackup.exe. Does Windows still have that?

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer= , Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http= ://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.


From: "Dan Kulinski"= <daniel@kulinski.net>
To: "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
= Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:22:01 PM
Subject: Re: = [SFS] Server Status

Failure is one of th= e best teachers.  I am also moving the way cfedde is and moving more i= nto public repositories and provisioning with ansible.  I also have a = VPS that backups personal documents although this is a simple rsync and I w= ould like to expand it to backup my wife's windows laptop.  Since we a= re on the topic of backups, if people on this list have Windows machines, h= ow do they handle backups?

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLW= illson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
<= div>
Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways.

=
- no regular backups
- no RAID
- poor problem diagnosis and dia= gnosis

I'm always grateful when I find a place that's wil= ling to hire and keep a special fellow like me.
--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evan= gelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

Backups are such= a pain until you need them.  I'm still running a dump to a usb drive = "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in= the cloud:  VPS,  Gitlab, Google Drive.  I suppose I land o= n a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle a= nd security in another.  

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <D= LWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restor= e from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affe= cted systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to= configure daily backups today.

There's a funny story her= e about a failing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup = backups on, and me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and d= isabling the backups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to b= e three weeks later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson= : Take the backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the= backups manually and often.

--
Davi= d L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
= Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLutio= n.





------=_Part_944_627427826.1505856729171-- From markjstang@gmail.com Tue Sep 19 22:41:02 2017 From: markjstang@gmail.com (Mark Stang) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:41:02 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --001a113cf33c3e9718055991b749 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113cf33c3e9714055991b748" --001a113cf33c3e9714055991b748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There was a company, I forget the name, that depended on RAID for their backups... The lost a drive and didn't notice until they lost the second... They sent an email apologising and announcing they were going out of business... [image: Inline image 1] https://www.tarsnap.com/ On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. > > - no regular backups > - no RAID > - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis > > I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a > special fellow like me. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > http://sofree.us > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------ > > Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to > a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is > somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a > different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and > security in another. > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson > wrote: > >> I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but >> the backup was three weeks old. >> >> Affected systems are: >> - zimbra.thegeek.nu >> - zimbra.sofree.us >> - mailman.thegeek.nu >> - fishes.sofree.us >> >> My plan is to configure daily backups today. >> >> There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the >> system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a >> problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can >> re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard >> drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system >> locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> http://sofree.us >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> > > --001a113cf33c3e9714055991b748 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There was a company, I forget the name, that depended on R= AID for their backups...
The lost a drive and didn't notice until t= hey lost the second...
They sent an email apologising and announc= ing they were going out of business...

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On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson &= lt;DLWillson@theg= eek.nu> wrote:
Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways.

- no regular bac= kups
- no RAID
- poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis

I'm = always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a s= pecial fellow like me.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH R= HCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLutio= n.


Backups are such a pain until you need th= em.=C2=A0 I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally&qu= ot; but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the cloud:= =C2=A0VPS, =C2=A0Gitlab, Google Drive.=C2=A0 I suppose I land on a differe= nt part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and security= in another. =C2=A0

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@th= egeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a = backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affected systems are:- zimbra.thegeek.nu=
- zimbra.sofr= ee.us
- mail= man.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure daily backups today.=

There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking u= p the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a = problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can= re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when th= e hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the s= ystem locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often.=

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evan= gelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a = good time for a r3VOLution.




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at companies where that has happened. More than once. Usually we find our self following someone saying: "We'll take care of that later." On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Mark Stang wrote: > There was a company, I forget the name, that depended on RAID for their > backups... > The lost a drive and didn't notice until they lost the second... > They sent an email apologising and announcing they were going out of > business... > > [image: Inline image 1] > https://www.tarsnap.com/ > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson > wrote: > >> Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. >> >> - no regular backups >> - no RAID >> - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis >> >> I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a >> special fellow like me. >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> http://sofree.us >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to >> a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is >> somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a >> different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and >> security in another. >> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson >> wrote: >> >>> I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but >>> the backup was three weeks old. >>> >>> Affected systems are: >>> - zimbra.thegeek.nu >>> - zimbra.sofree.us >>> - mailman.thegeek.nu >>> - fishes.sofree.us >>> >>> My plan is to configure daily backups today. >>> >>> There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the >>> system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a >>> problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can >>> re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard >>> drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system >>> locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. >>> >>> -- >>> David L. Willson >>> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >>> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >>> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >>> http://sofree.us >>> >>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >>> >>> >> >> > --f403043a1c6ceb8770055991d1c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've worked at companies where that has happened. More= than once. Usually we find our self following someone saying: "We'= ;ll take care of that later."

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Mark Stang <mar= kjstang@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div dir=3D"ltr">There was a company, I forget the name, that depended on RA= ID for their backups...
The lost a drive and didn't notice until th= ey lost the second...
They sent an email apologising and announci= ng they were going out of business...

3D"Inline

On Tue, Sep = 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
Yeah. I= screwed this up at least 3 ways.

- no regular backups
- no RAID<= br>- poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis

I'm always grateful wh= en I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like= me.

--
David L. Willson
Te= acher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LAN= S(5267)
http://sofree.us<= /a>

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.



On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <
DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to re= store from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affected sy= stems are:
- zimb= ra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure daily b= ackups today.

There's a funny story here about a failing hard dr= ive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagno= sing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups &quo= t;until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks l= ater, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the back= ups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manual= ly and often.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, E= ngineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<= br>http://sofree.us
<= br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.





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I thought Heather was supporting you ;-) On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. > > - no regular backups > - no RAID > - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis > > I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a > special fellow like me. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > http://sofree.us > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > ------------------------------ > > Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to > a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is > somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a > different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and > security in another. > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson > wrote: > >> I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but >> the backup was three weeks old. >> >> Affected systems are: >> - zimbra.thegeek.nu >> - zimbra.sofree.us >> - mailman.thegeek.nu >> - fishes.sofree.us >> >> My plan is to configure daily backups today. >> >> There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the >> system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a >> problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can >> re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard >> drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system >> locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> http://sofree.us >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> > > --001a113dd4ae8e49d2055992108c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are you saying you have a real job?
I thought Heather = was supporting you ;-)

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLW= illson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
<= div>
Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways.

- no = regular backups
- no RAID
- poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis
<= br>I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire a= nd keep a special fellow like me.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
CO= A LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time fo= r a r3VOLution.


Backups are such a pain until= you need them.=C2=A0 I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occ= asionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere i= n the cloud: =C2=A0VPS, =C2=A0Gitlab, Google Drive.=C2=A0 I suppose I land = on a different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle = and security in another. =C2=A0

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson <= DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to resto= re from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

Affected syste= ms are:
- zimbra.= thegeek.nu
- z= imbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to configure daily back= ups today.

There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive= locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosin= g it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "u= ntil I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks late= r, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups= . If the system locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually = and often.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engi= neer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
= http://sofree.us

= This is a good time for a r3VOLution.




--001a113dd4ae8e49d2055992108c-- From shawn@redmop.com Wed Sep 20 17:36:43 2017 From: shawn@redmop.com (Shawn Perry) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:36:43 -0600 Subject: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: References: <14837839.6537.1505855218741.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --001a11352f522b17e10559a197f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I use either Veeam or Macrium for Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up to download Veeam, they will call you every time you download. Shawn T Perry Red Mop Computing Services phone: 303-881-2623 email: shawn@redmop.com On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Dan Kulinski wrote: > Failure is one of the best teachers. I am also moving the way cfedde is > and moving more into public repositories and provisioning with ansible. I > also have a VPS that backups personal documents although this is a simple > rsync and I would like to expand it to backup my wife's windows laptop. > Since we are on the topic of backups, if people on this list have Windows > machines, how do they handle backups? > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM, David L. Willson > wrote: > >> Yeah. I screwed this up at least 3 ways. >> >> - no regular backups >> - no RAID >> - poor problem diagnosis and diagnosis >> >> I'm always grateful when I find a place that's willing to hire and keep a >> special fellow like me. >> >> -- >> David L. Willson >> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >> http://sofree.us >> >> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Backups are such a pain until you need them. I'm still running a dump to >> a usb drive "occasionally" but for the most part the stuff I care about is >> somewhere in the cloud: VPS, Gitlab, Google Drive. I suppose I land on a >> different part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and >> security in another. >> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L. Willson >> wrote: >> >>> I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was able to restore from a backup, but >>> the backup was three weeks old. >>> >>> Affected systems are: >>> - zimbra.thegeek.nu >>> - zimbra.sofree.us >>> - mailman.thegeek.nu >>> - fishes.sofree.us >>> >>> My plan is to configure daily backups today. >>> >>> There's a funny story here about a failing hard drive locking up the >>> system that I had *just* setup backups on, and me diagnosing it as a >>> problem with the backup script, and disabling the backups "until I can >>> re-arrange things", which turned out to be three weeks later, when the hard >>> drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Take the backups. If the system >>> locks up during or near backups, take the backups manually and often. >>> >>> -- >>> David L. Willson >>> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist >>> COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP >>> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) >>> http://sofree.us >>> >>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution. >>> >>> >> >> > --001a11352f522b17e10559a197f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use either Veeam or Macrium for Windows Backups. Note, i= f you sign up to download Veeam, they will call you every time you download= .



Shawn T Perry
Red Mop Computing Services
phone: 303-881= -2623

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Dan Kulinsk= i <daniel@kulinski.net> wrote:
Failure is one of the best teachers.=C2=A0 I am als= o moving the way cfedde is and moving more into public repositories and pro= visioning with ansible.=C2=A0 I also have a VPS that backups personal docum= ents although this is a simple rsync and I would like to expand it to backu= p my wife's windows laptop.=C2=A0 Since we are on the topic of backups,= if people on this list have Windows machines, how do they handle backups?<= /div>

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at= 3:06 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:<= br>
Yeah. I screwed th= is up at least 3 ways.

- no regular backups
- no RAID
- poor p= roblem diagnosis and diagnosis

I'm always grateful when I find a= place that's willing to hire and keep a special fellow like me.<= br>
--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engi= neer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
= http://sofree.us

= This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

=

Backups are such a pain until you need = them.=C2=A0 I'm still running a dump to a usb drive "occasionally&= quot; but for the most part the stuff I care about is somewhere in the clou= d: =C2=A0VPS, =C2=A0Gitlab, Google Drive.=C2=A0 I suppose I land on a diffe= rent part of the Venn diagram that has reliability in one circle and securi= ty in another. =C2=A0

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:51 AM, David L.= Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
I lost a hard drive yesterday. I was= able to restore from a backup, but the backup was three weeks old.

= Affected systems are:
- zimbra.thegeek.nu
- zimbra.sofree.us
- mailman.thegeek.nu
- fishes.sofree.us

My plan is to config= ure daily backups today.

There's a funny story here about a fail= ing hard drive locking up the system that I had *just* setup backups on, an= d me diagnosing it as a problem with the backup script, and disabling the b= ackups "until I can re-arrange things", which turned out to be th= ree weeks later, when the hard drive stopped working completely. Lesson: Ta= ke the backups. If the system locks up during or near backups, take the bac= kups manually and often.

--
David L. WillsonTeacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-= LANS(5267)
http://sofree.= us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
<= br>




--001a11352f522b17e10559a197f8-- From matuse@gmail.com Wed Sep 20 18:51:45 2017 From: matuse@gmail.com (Matt James) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:51:45 -0600 Subject: Backups - WAS: [SFS] Server Status Message-ID: --001a113de9dadbe60a0559a2a2d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Someone asked about Windows backups in the mix I have been using CrashPlan since it allows me to backup windows, Mac, and Linux. Unfortunately, they are doing away with their "peasant class" offering (aka home edition.) Anyone know of another solution that is as slick for all 3 environments? Read - set it an forget it. Matt On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Shawn Perry wrote: > I use either Veeam or Macrium for Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up to > download Veeam, they will call you every time you download. > > > > Shawn T Perry > Red Mop Computing Services > phone: 303-881-2623 <(303)%20881-2623> > email: shawn@redmop.com > > --001a113de9dadbe60a0559a2a2d4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone asked about Windows backups in the = mix

I have been using CrashPlan since it allows me to backup w= indows, Mac, and Linux.=C2=A0 Unfortunately, they are doing away with their= "peasant class" offering (aka home edition.)

Anyon= e know of another solution that is as slick for all 3 environments?=C2=A0 R= ead - set it an forget it.

Matt

On Wed, Sep 20, 201= 7 at 10:36 AM, Shawn Perry <shawn@redmop.com> wrote:
I use either Veeam or Macrium fo= r Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up to download Veeam, they will call y= ou every time you download.



Shawn T Perry<= br>Red Mop Computing Services
phone: 303-881-2623

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charset="UTF-8" - Windows is only supported via Cygwin and the beta Windows Subsystem for Linux . On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:00 PM, David L. Willson wrote: > The Tarsnap that Mark recommended looked pretty cool, but it probably > doesn't work with Windows. But my ntbackup launching batch file is fine for > Windows. Send the Windows backups to a Linux box and Linux backups to > Tarsnap! > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Matt James > Date: 9/20/17 11:51 (GMT-07:00) > To: Shawn Perry > Cc: Dan Kulinski , sfs > Subject: Backups - WAS: [SFS] Server Status > > Someone asked about Windows backups in the mix > > I have been using CrashPlan since it allows me to backup windows, Mac, and > Linux. Unfortunately, they are doing away with their "peasant class" > offering (aka home edition.) > > Anyone know of another solution that is as slick for all 3 environments? > Read - set it an forget it. > > Matt > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Shawn Perry wrote: > >> I use either Veeam or Macrium for Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up >> to download Veeam, they will call you every time you download. >> >> >> >> Shawn T Perry >> Red Mop Computing Services >> phone: 303-881-2623 <(303)%20881-2623> >> email: shawn@redmop.com >> >> > --001a113cf33cbb68710559a3ea37 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:0= 0 PM, David L. Willson <dlwillson@sofree.us> wrote:
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The Tarsnap that Mark recommended looked pretty cool, but it probably = doesn't work with Windows. But my ntbackup launching batch file is fine= for Windows. Send the Windows backups to a Linux box and Linux backups to = Tarsnap!

Sent from my = Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Matt James <matuse@gmail.com>
Date: = 9/20/17 11:51 (GMT-07:00)
To: Shawn Perry <shawn@redmop.com>
Cc: Dan Kulinsk= i <daniel@kulin= ski.net>, sfs <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Subject: Backups - WAS: [SFS] Server Status
Someone asked about Windows backups i= n the mix

I have been using CrashPlan since it allows me to ba= ckup windows, Mac, and Linux.=C2=A0 Unfortunately, they are doing away with= their "peasant class" offering (aka home edition.)

Anyone know of another solution that is as slick for all 3 environments?= =C2=A0 Read - set it an forget it.

Matt

On Wed, Sep= 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Shawn Perry <shawn@redmop.com> wrote:<= br>
I use either Veeam or Ma= crium for Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up to download Veeam, they wil= l call you every time you download.



Shawn T Perry
Red Mop Computing Services
phone: 303-8= 81-2623


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--001a113cf33cbb68710559a3ea37-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Wed Sep 20 22:45:40 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Backups - WAS: [SFS] Server Status In-Reply-To: <4isjsnteadypfv44wleupivl.1505931855144@email.android.com> Message-ID: <247960.8558.1505943940255.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Seth seems to be trying to say this (below): (But, he's sending from a non-subscriber address (seth@boccus.com, not seth@bocc.us), so it's getting bounced, so I'm sending it for him, and CC'ing him.) Veeam Agent is free (beer) and reliable. Windows and Linux. https://www.veeam.com/linux-backup-free.html Thanks, Seth Everson | Owner Boccus Group O: 720-386-5940 M: 970-310-5942 E: seth@bocc.us From: sfs-admin@thegeek.nu [mailto:sfs-admin@thegeek.nu] On Behalf Of Matt James Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 11:52 AM To: Shawn Perry Cc: Dan Kulinski ; sfs Subject: Backups - WAS: [SFS] Server Status Someone asked about Windows backups in the mix I have been using CrashPlan since it allows me to backup windows, Mac, and Linux. Unfortunately, they are doing away with their "peasant class" offering (aka home edition.) Anyone know of another solution that is as slick for all 3 environments? Read - set it an forget it. Matt On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Shawn Perry > wrote: I use either Veeam or Macrium for Windows Backups. Note, if you sign up to download Veeam, they will call you every time you download. Shawn T Perry Red Mop Computing Services phone: 303-881-2623 email: shawn@redmop.com -- David L. 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----_com.android.email_815319861958390-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Mon Sep 25 17:33:21 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Upcoming Events: Working Days, OpenStack x2, NextCloud In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13202232.18777.1506357201571.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> ------=_Part_18776_23980215.1506357201570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This weekend, Anthony Sayre, Stephen Strong, and I will be getting together for a few to several hours each day to work on SFS stuph. We'll build doing as much of the following as we can manage: * SysAdmin Stuph - Share with Stephen, Anthony, and whoever else is willing + Proxy + MatterMost + BigBlueButton + OwnCloud/NextCloud + Wordpress + Zimbra For October's Software Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a second delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack. * Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/openstack-by-david-willson/ * Price: $32 or PWYC And for the 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It should be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think. * no link yet * Price: $64 or PWYC For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud. NextCloud is better than DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's even better than OwnCloud. * Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcloud-by-mike-shoup/ * Price: $16 or PWYC See you soon! -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ------=_Part_18776_23980215.1506357201570 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This weekend, Anthony Sayre, Stephen Strong, and I will be getting together for a few to several hours each day to work on SFS stuph. We'll build doing as much of the following as we can manage:

* SysAdmin Stuph - Share with Stephen, Anthony, and whoever else is willing
  + Proxy
  + MatterMost
  + BigBlueButton
  + OwnCloud/NextCloud
  + Wordpress
  + Zimbra

For October's Software Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a
second delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack.
* Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/openstack-by-david-willson/
* Price: $32 or PWYC

And for the 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It
should be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think.
* no link yet
* Price: $64 or PWYC

For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud. NextCloud is better than
DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's even better than OwnCloud.
* Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcloud-by-mike-shoup/
* Price: $16 or PWYC

See you soon!

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
------=_Part_18776_23980215.1506357201570-- From asayre@sofree.us Mon Sep 25 18:03:12 2017 From: asayre@sofree.us (Anthony Sayre) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] Upcoming Events: Working Days, OpenStack x2, NextCloud In-Reply-To: <13202232.18777.1506357201571.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <13202232.18777.1506357201571.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <1521188968.2353.1506358992413.JavaMail.zimbra@sofree.us> ------=_Part_2352_816944377.1506358992412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The link is up for Openstack at IT-NTL 10/14: https://www.meetup.com/preview/it-ntl/events/243488239 Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Willson" To: "sfs" Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 10:33:21 AM Subject: [SFS] Upcoming Events: Working Days, OpenStack x2, NextCloud This weekend, Anthony Sayre, Stephen Strong, and I will be getting together for a few to several hours each day to work on SFS stuph. We'll build doing as much of the following as we can manage: * SysAdmin Stuph - Share with Stephen, Anthony, and whoever else is willing + Proxy + MatterMost + BigBlueButton + OwnCloud/NextCloud + Wordpress + Zimbra For October's Software Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a second delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack. * Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/openstack-by-david-willson/ * Price: $32 or PWYC And for the 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It should be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think. * no link yet * Price: $64 or PWYC For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud. NextCloud is better than DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's even better than OwnCloud. * Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcloud-by-mike-shoup/ * Price: $16 or PWYC See you soon! -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ------=_Part_2352_816944377.1506358992412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The link is up fo= r Openstack at IT-NTL 10/14:


Anthony

From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>
To: = "sfs" <sfs@thegeek.nu>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017= 10:33:21 AM
Subject: [SFS] Upcoming Events: Working Days, OpenSt= ack x2, NextCloud

This weekend, Anthony Sayre, Ste= phen Strong, and I will be getting together for a few to several hours each= day to work on SFS stuph. We'll build doing as much of the following as we= can manage:

* SysAdmin Stuph - Share with Stephen, Antho= ny, and whoever else is willing
  + Proxy
  + MatterMost  + BigBlueButton
  + OwnCloud/NextCloud
  + Wordpres= s
  + Zimbra

For October's Softw= are Freedom First Saturday (SFFS), I'm going to do a
second delivery of= AGHI2 OpenStack.
* Details/RSVP: http://www.sofree.us/= openstack-by-david-willson/
* Price: $32 or PWYC

And for t= he 2nd Saturday of October, a 3rd delivery of AGHI2 OpenStack! It
shoul= d be pretty well debugged by then, you'd think.
* no link yet
* Pri= ce: $64 or PWYC

For November's SFFS, Mike Shoup will do NextCloud.= NextCloud is better than
DropBox and S3 and Google Drive, and it's eve= n better than OwnCloud.
* Details: http://www.sofree.us/nextcl= oud-by-mike-shoup/
* Price: $16 or PWYC

See you soon!
=
--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS= CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
= http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

------=_Part_2352_816944377.1506358992412-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Fri Sep 29 21:31:07 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] sysadmin work days this weekend In-Reply-To: <15171017.3439.1506716716139.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: <5616046.3450.1506717067198.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> ------=_Part_3449_24993963.1506717067197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday, I'm going to be doing SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm. Sunday, 1PM to 5:45pm. Stephen Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in helping with this kind of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you want to help remotely, and I'll try to make that possible. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ------=_Part_3449_24993963.1506717067197 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Saturday, I'm going to be doing SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm.
Sunday, 1PM to 5:45pm.

Stephen Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in helping with this kind of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you want to help remotely, and I'll try to make that possible.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.

------=_Part_3449_24993963.1506717067197-- From chris@fedde.us Fri Sep 29 21:43:57 2017 From: chris@fedde.us (Chris Fedde) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:43:57 -0600 Subject: [SFS] sysadmin work days this weekend In-Reply-To: <5616046.3450.1506717067198.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> References: <15171017.3439.1506716716139.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> <5616046.3450.1506717067198.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> Message-ID: --f403043a0f1887b6a4055a5a152f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I need help finishing electrical into my shop. Anyone want.to stop by? On Sep 29, 2017 2:35 PM, "David L. Willson" wrote: > Saturday, I'm going to be doing SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm. > Sunday, 1PM to 5:45pm. > > Stephen Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in helping with > this kind of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you want to help > remotely, and I'll try to make that possible. > > -- > David L. Willson > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > http://sofree.us > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > > --f403043a0f1887b6a4055a5a152f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need help finishing electrical into my shop.=C2=A0 =C2= =A0Anyone want.to stop by?
=

O= n Sep 29, 2017 2:35 PM, "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
Saturday, I= 9;m going to be doing SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm.
Sunday, 1PM to 5:4= 5pm.

Stephen Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in he= lping with this kind of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you want = to help remotely, and I'll try to make that possible.

--
David L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<= br>COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good ti= me for a r3VOLution.

--f403043a0f1887b6a4055a5a152f-- From DLWillson@TheGeek.NU Sat Sep 30 00:07:47 2017 From: DLWillson@TheGeek.NU (David L. Willson) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:07:47 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [SFS] sysadmin work days this weekend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <31768425.5552.1506726467109.JavaMail.root@thegeek.nu> ------=_Part_5551_2895037.1506726467108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd love to. I can't this weekend, but I'm free next Sunday (10/8) until about 5PM. -- David L. Willson Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) http://sofree.us This is a good time for a r3VOLution. ----- Original Message ----- > I need help finishing electrical into my shop. Anyone want.to stop > by? > On Sep 29, 2017 2:35 PM, "David L. Willson" < DLWillson@thegeek.nu > > wrote: > > Saturday, I'm going to be doing SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm. > > > Sunday, 1PM to 5:45pm. > > > Stephen Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in > > helping > > with this kind of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you > > want > > to help remotely, and I'll try to make that possible. > > > -- > > > David L. Willson > > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist > > > COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) > > > http://sofree.us > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution. > ------=_Part_5551_2895037.1506726467108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = 12pt; color: #000000'>I'd love to. I can't this weekend, but I'm free next = Sunday (10/8) until about 5PM.

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Da= vid L. Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLPMobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
http://sofree.us

This is a good time = for a r3VOLution.


I= need help finishing electrical into my shop.   Anyone want.to stop by?

On = Sep 29, 2017 2:35 PM, "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> wrote:
Saturday, I'm going to be doi= ng SA work from 12:30pm to 5:30pm.
Sunday, 1PM to 5:45pm.

Stephen= Strong, Anthony Sayre, and anyone else interested in helping with this kin= d of thing are welcome to join. Let me know if you want to help remotely, a= nd I'll try to make that possible.

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David L. = Willson
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
COA LFCS CCAH RHCE CLP
Mobil= e 720-333-LANS(5267)
http= ://sofree.us

This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<= br>


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