[SFS] IRC
Chris Fedde
sfs@thegeek.nu
Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:29:02 -0700
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A big part of my thinking on these topics is influenced by my understanding
of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>wrote:
> Yay! Thanks Chris!
>
> And you're right about what you said, during our philosophy discussion
> over beers after CLUE. I think it was you, anyway. We were talking about
> the Golden Rule and un-guarded apples, and you suggested that we ask a 3rd
> party for his opinion. I've been thinking about it quite a bit. I'm also
> going to start studying Universally Preferable Behavior and see what it has
> to say about un-guarded apples.
>
>
> --
> David L. Willson
> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>
> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>
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>
> All,
>
> We now have a channel op in the channel. I'll attempt to keep that for
> the cfedde_bot denizen. Please feel free to rejoin at your convenience.
>
> My bot is not quite fully functional yet but the cfedde_bot user is
> connecting from an expected reliable server.
>
> I'll op users as they join. Feel free to do the same yourself.
>
> chris
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Robert Pickett <wcktklwn@wcktklwn.net>wrote:
>
>> I left
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>>
>> On 11/18/2013 9:41 AM, Chris Fedde wrote:
>>
>> At your convenience can you please part from #sofreeus? To recover
>> channel ops we need to vacate the channel.
>>
>> thanks
>> chris
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Gary Romero <randomincolorado@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've heard rumors of people's IP's being blacklisted after putting up
>>> ircs... Unconfirmed rumors but still, one more reason not to host our own.
>>> On Nov 15, 2013 8:15 PM, "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@thegeek.nu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm grateful for your help on this, Chris.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> David L. Willson
>>>> Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
>>>> RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA
>>>> Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
>>>>
>>>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> At the moment none of us have channel ops. I'm negotiating to get
>>>> that fixed. As soon as I get that fixed I'll unset the registration
>>>> mode. At the moment I'm in the hurry up and wait phase.
>>>>
>>>> I see that the ip of the sender of my registration confirmation from
>>>> is in dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net<http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist/uceprotect>and no other list checked by
>>>> http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check. (the sender IP was
>>>> 198.50.184.119)
>>>>
>>>> IRC is a highly distributed service. do 'dig irc.freenode.net' to
>>>> see a list of some of the servers that participate. This does not however
>>>> have much relation to the source of the confirmation email.
>>>>
>>>> I've given up on the bot I was going to use to manage ops. I'll be
>>>> continuing work in a different tack as time and availability allows.
>>>>
>>>> I'd recommend not giving up on freenode yet. It is the current best
>>>> managed IRC network available today. Perhaps that is not saying much but
>>>> it does afford us a bit more support than we might want to manage our
>>>> self? A public IRC server becomes a conduit for wares, spam and other
>>>> nefarious uses. I'd just as soon let others take on that responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> That's my $0.02
>>>> chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">A big part of my thinking on these topics is influenced by=
my understanding of=A0Maslow's hierarchy of needs.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:=
15 AM, David L. Willson <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:DLWillson@t=
hegeek.nu" target=3D"_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:Times New Roman">Yay! Thanks Chris!<br><br>And you're right about wha=
t you said, during our philosophy discussion over beers after CLUE. I think=
it was you, anyway. We were talking about the Golden Rule and un-guarded a=
pples, and you suggested that we ask a 3rd party for his opinion. I've=
been thinking about it quite a bit. I'm also going to start studying U=
niversally Preferable Behavior and see what it has to say about un-guarded =
apples.<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><span><br><span name=3D"x"></span>--<br>David L. Will=
son<br>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Lin=
ux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br><br>This is a=
good time for a r3VOLution.<span name=3D"x"></span><br>
</span><br><hr><blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;font-size:12pt;font-st=
yle:normal;margin-left:5px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-deco=
ration:none;font-weight:normal;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255)"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">
All,<div><br></div><div>We now have a channel op in the channel. =A0I'l=
l attempt to keep that for the cfedde_bot denizen. =A0Please feel free to r=
ejoin at your convenience.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>My bot is not quite =
fully functional yet but the cfedde_bot user is connecting from an expected=
reliable server.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'll op users as they join. =A0Feel free to do the =
same yourself.</div><div><br></div><div>chris</div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:00 A=
M, Robert Pickett <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:wcktklwn@wcktklwn=
.net" target=3D"_blank">wcktklwn@wcktklwn.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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=20
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I left<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
-Robert</font></span><div><div><br>
<br>
<div>On 11/18/2013 9:41 AM, Chris Fedde
wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">At your convenience can you please part from
#sofreeus? =A0To recover channel ops we need to vacate the
channel.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>chris</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Gary Romero <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:randomincolorado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">randominc=
olorado@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir=3D"ltr">I've heard rumors of people's IP's b=
eing
blacklisted after putting up ircs... Unconfirmed rumors
but still, one more reason not to host our own.</p>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 15, 2013 8:15 PM, "D=
avid
L. Willson" <<a href=3D"mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.=
nu" target=3D"_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Ro=
man">I'm grateful for your help on this,
Chris.<span><br>
<br>
<span></span>--<br>
David L. Willson<br>
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1
UbuntuCP NovellCLA<br>
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br>
<br>
This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span></span=
><br>
</span><br>
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<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;font-size:12p=
t;font-style:normal;margin-left:5px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255=
)">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>At the moment none of us have channel
ops.=A0 I'm negotiating to get that fixed=
.=A0
As soon as I get that fixed I'll unset th=
e
registration mode.=A0=A0 At the moment I'=
m in
the hurry up and wait phase.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I see that the ip of the sender of my
registration confirmation from is in <a href=
=3D"http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist/uceprotect" target=3D"_blank">dn=
sbl-2.uceprotect.net</a>
and no other list checked by <a href=3D"http:=
//whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check" target=3D"_blank">http://whatismyi=
paddress.com/blacklist-check</a>.=A0
(the sender IP was 198.50.184.119)<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>IRC is a highly distributed service.=A0
do 'dig <a href=3D"http://irc.freenode.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>' to
see a list of some of the servers that
participate.=A0 This does not however have
much relation to the source of the
confirmation email.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I've given up on the bot I was going t=
o
use to manage ops.=A0 I'll be continuing
work in a different tack as time and
availability allows.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I'd recommend not giving up on freenod=
e
yet. It is the current best managed IRC
network available today.=A0 Perhaps that is
not saying much but it does afford us a
bit more support than we might want to
manage our self?=A0 A public IRC server
becomes a conduit for wares, spam and
other nefarious uses.=A0 I'd just as soon
let others take on that responsibility.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>That's my $0.02<br>
</div>
<div>chris<br>
</div>
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