[SFS] IRC

David L. Willson sfs@thegeek.nu
Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:15:23 -0700 (MST)


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Yay! Thanks Chris! 

And you're right about what you said, during our philosophy discussion over beers after CLUE. I think it was you, anyway. We were talking about the Golden Rule and un-guarded apples, and you suggested that we ask a 3rd party for his opinion. I've been thinking about it quite a bit. I'm also going to start studying Universally Preferable Behavior and see what it has to say about un-guarded apples. 

-- 
David L. Willson 
Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist 
RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA 
Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) 

This is a good time for a r3VOLution. 

----- Original Message -----

> All,

> We now have a channel op in the channel. I'll attempt to keep that
> for the cfedde_bot denizen. Please feel free to rejoin at your
> convenience.

> My bot is not quite fully functional yet but the cfedde_bot user is
> connecting from an expected reliable server.

> I'll op users as they join. Feel free to do the same yourself.

> chris

> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Robert Pickett <
> wcktklwn@wcktklwn.net > wrote:

> > I left
> 

> > -Robert
> 

> > On 11/18/2013 9:41 AM, Chris Fedde wrote:
> 

> > > At your convenience can you please part from #sofreeus? To
> > > recover
> > > channel ops we need to vacate the channel.
> > 
> 

> > > thanks
> > 
> 
> > > chris
> > 
> 

> > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Gary Romero <
> > > randomincolorado@gmail.com > wrote:
> > 
> 

> > > > I've heard rumors of people's IP's being blacklisted after
> > > > putting
> > > > up
> > > > ircs... Unconfirmed rumors but still, one more reason not to
> > > > host
> > > > our own.
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > On Nov 15, 2013 8:15 PM, "David L. Willson" <
> > > > DLWillson@thegeek.nu
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > I'm grateful for your help on this, Chris.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > --
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > David L. Willson
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP
> > > > > NovellCLA
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > > > > Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > At the moment none of us have channel ops. I'm negotiating
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > that fixed. As soon as I get that fixed I'll unset the
> > > > > > registration
> > > > > > mode. At the moment I'm in the hurry up and wait phase.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > I see that the ip of the sender of my registration
> > > > > > confirmation
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > is in dnsbl-2.uceprotect.net and no other list checked by
> > > > > > http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check . (the sender
> > > > > > IP
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > 198.50.184.119)
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > IRC is a highly distributed service. do 'dig
> > > > > > irc.freenode.net
> > > > > > '
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > see a list of some of the servers that participate. This
> > > > > > does
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > however have much relation to the source of the
> > > > > > confirmation
> > > > > > email.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > I've given up on the bot I was going to use to manage ops.
> > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > continuing work in a different tack as time and
> > > > > > availability
> > > > > > allows.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > I'd recommend not giving up on freenode yet. It is the
> > > > > > current
> > > > > > best
> > > > > > managed IRC network available today. Perhaps that is not
> > > > > > saying
> > > > > > much
> > > > > > but it does afford us a bit more support than we might want
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > manage our self? A public IRC server becomes a conduit for
> > > > > > wares,
> > > > > > spam and other nefarious uses. I'd just as soon let others
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > that responsibility.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > That's my $0.02
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

> > > > > > chris
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

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>Yay! Thanks Chris!<br><br>And you're right about what you said, during our=
 philosophy discussion over beers after CLUE. I think it was you, anyway. W=
e were talking about the Golden Rule and un-guarded apples, and you suggest=
ed that we ask a 3rd party for his opinion.  I've been thinking about it qu=
ite a bit. I'm also going to start studying Universally Preferable Behavior=
 and see what it has to say about un-guarded apples.<br><span><br><span nam=
e=3D"x"></span>--<br>David L. Willson<br>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>R=
HCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA<br>Mobile 7=
20-333-LANS(5267)<br><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span name=
=3D"x"></span><br></span><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><blockquote style=3D"border-l=
eft:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;=
font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helve=
tica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div dir=3D"ltr">All,<div><br></div>=
<div>We now have a channel op in the channel. &nbsp;I'll attempt to keep th=
at for the cfedde_bot denizen. &nbsp;Please feel free to rejoin at your con=
venience.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>My bot is not quite fully function=
al yet but the cfedde_bot user is connecting from an expected reliable serv=
er.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'll op users as they join. &nbsp;Feel free to do the s=
ame yourself.</div><div><br></div><div>chris</div></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM=
, Robert Pickett <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wcktklwn@wcktklwn.=
net" target=3D"_blank">wcktklwn@wcktklwn.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    I left<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
    <br>
    -Robert</font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 11/18/2013 9:41 AM, Chris Fedde
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">At your convenience can you please part from
        #sofreeus? &nbsp;To recover channel ops we need to vacate the
        channel.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>thanks</div>
        <div>chris</div>
      </div>
      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
          On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Gary Romero <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:randomincolorado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">randominc=
olorado@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <p dir=3D"ltr">I've heard rumors of people's IP's being
              blacklisted after putting up ircs... Unconfirmed rumors
              but still, one more reason not to host our own.</p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 15, 2013 8:15 PM, "David
                  L. Willson" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" t=
arget=3D"_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    <div>
                      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Times New Ro=
man">I'm grateful for your help on this,
                        Chris.<span><br>
                          <br>
                          <span></span>--<br>
                          David L. Willson<br>
                          Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist<br>
                          RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1
                          UbuntuCP NovellCLA<br>
                          Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br>
                          <br>
                          This is a good time for a r3VOLution.<span></span=
><br>
                        </span><br>
                        <hr>
                        <blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;font-size:12p=
t;font-style:normal;margin-left:5px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;=
text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255=
)">

                          <div dir=3D"ltr">
                            <div>At the moment none of us have channel
                              ops.&nbsp; I'm negotiating to get that fixed.=
&nbsp;
                              As soon as I get that fixed I'll unset the
                              registration mode.&nbsp;&nbsp; At the moment =
I'm in
                              the hurry up and wait phase.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I see that the ip of the sender of my
                              registration confirmation from is in <a href=
=3D"http://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist/uceprotect" target=3D"_blank">dn=
sbl-2.uceprotect.net</a>
                              and no other list checked by <a href=3D"http:=
//whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check" target=3D"_blank">http://whatismyi=
paddress.com/blacklist-check</a>.&nbsp;
                              (the sender IP was 198.50.184.119)<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>IRC is a highly distributed service.&nbsp;=

                              do 'dig <a href=3D"http://irc.freenode.net" t=
arget=3D"_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>' to
                              see a list of some of the servers that
                              participate.&nbsp; This does not however have=

                              much relation to the source of the
                              confirmation email.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I've given up on the bot I was going to
                              use to manage ops.&nbsp; I'll be continuing
                              work in a different tack as time and
                              availability allows.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I'd recommend not giving up on freenode
                              yet. It is the current best managed IRC
                              network available today.&nbsp; Perhaps that i=
s
                              not saying much but it does afford us a
                              bit more support than we might want to
                              manage our self?&nbsp; A public IRC server
                              becomes a conduit for wares, spam and
                              other nefarious uses.&nbsp; I'd just as soon
                              let others take on that responsibility.<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            <div>That's my $0.02<br>
                            </div>
                            <div>chris<br>
                            </div>
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