[SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
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Agreed. I wouldn't use one for a full-blown NAS, but it might work well enough for their purposes.
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From: "Kevin Byrne" <kbyrne9000@gmail.com>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:56:23 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry.
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote:
I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).
Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;)
On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:
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Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and expertise these kids have.
NAS
Network backup
Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.
From: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu >
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management.
2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect
3. Scratch Programming lessons
4. Build an IRC server
5. ???
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Gary (Garheade) Romero
"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon
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From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network?
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: dennisjperkins@comcast.net
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi.
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From: "Gary A. Romero" < garomero@thegeek.nu >
To: sfs@thegeek.nu
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM
Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
Expensive.
Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab?
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Gary (Garheade) Romero
"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon
----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU>
To: "sfs" < sfs@thegeek.nu >
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM
Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?
Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/
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<html><body><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Agreed. I wouldn't use one for a full-blown NAS, but it might work well enough for their purposes.<br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Kevin Byrne" <kbyrne9000@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>sfs@thegeek.nu<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:56:23 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?<br><div><br></div>Ignore this email, I missed the scope of everything. Sorry.<br><div><br></div>On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Kevin Byrne wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I would personally not every build a grossely underpowered NAS. The PI just cant push the bit over the network let alone run anything outside a RAID 0/1 config. You need tons of ram and at least an AMD Fusion Style or Intel Celeron Processor. I run some NAS/SAN hybrid openfiler 2.99.02 systems on some HP MicroServers (N40L) with some intel e1000e cards tossed in there. I still have a hard time saturating a Gig line (Raid 6 with 8 gigs of ram in the boxes. Using 6x WD Red 3TB drives). I have seen people run NAS even single drive SSD on a PI and they can't even crack 15/20 MB/sec (not even able to saturate USB 2.0).<div>
<br></div><div>Personally if you want something cool to play with and are hankering for a fun project Get an IBM or HP basic workstation/server. Newegg has the i3 series ones on sale for under 300 all the time. Then try to build a cloud with VDI on it. Include a website, webdav file space, email server, and desktop delivery system. Use those pi's as endpoints and do it with only open software... NOW that would be fun (ok and geeky). Just my 2 cents ;)<br>
<br>On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial"><div>Three more to what I already suggested. I don't know what level of interest and expertise these kids have.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>NAS<br></div><div>Network backup<br></div><div>Amahi home server, assuming it has been ported over. The drawback is that it uses Fedora. It would be nice if it was packages that could be installed on any distro. Maybe creating an equivalent would be a good project.<br>
</div><hr><div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From: </b>"Gary A. Romero" <<a>garomero@thegeek.nu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a>sfs@thegeek.nu</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:22:06 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?<br>
<div><br></div>1. Build a Website. Include some sort of change control and remote management.<br>2. Build a game server and configure clients to connect<br>3. Scratch Programming lessons<br>4. Build an IRC server<br>5. ???<br>
<div><br></div>----------------------------<br>Gary (Garheade) Romero<br><div><br></div>"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon<br>
<div><br></div><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU><br>To: <a>sfs@thegeek.nu</a><br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:03:38 AM<br>Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi?<br><div><br></div><br>Can you think of something fun to do with 3 older laptops, 3 RPi's, 3 BeagleBone Blacks, a small bag of teenagers, and a network? <br>
<div><br></div><br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone <br><div><br></div><br>-------- Original message -------- <br>From: <a>dennisjperkins@comcast.net</a> <br>
Date: 10/15/2013 7:23 AM (GMT-07:00) <br>To: <a>sfs@thegeek.nu</a> <br>Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? <br><div>
<br></div><br><div><br></div><br>Beaglebone Black might be an alternative for you. The graphics resolution isn't as high, in case that is important to you. There is internal flash memory too, but it might not be as convenient to boot from the microSD chip as it is on the Pi. <br>
<div><br></div><br>----- Original Message -----<br><div><br></div>From: "Gary A. Romero" <<a>garomero@thegeek.nu</a>> <br>
To: <a>sfs@thegeek.nu</a> <br>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:17:32 AM <br>Subject: Re: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? <br>
<div><br></div><br>Expensive. <br><div><br></div><br>Seriously though, a Prototyping Lab? <br><div><br></div><br>---------------------------- <br>Gary (Garheade) Romero <br><div><br></div><br>"Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Dick Brandon <br>
<div><br></div><br><div><br></div>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson@TheGeek.NU> <br>To: "sfs" <<a>sfs@thegeek.nu</a>> <br>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 9:59:22 PM <br>Subject: [SFS] What do you call a Pi Lab without Pi? <br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Thanks to Aaron for reminding me why I'm so darn conflicted about the Raspberry Pi, and why I keep thinking there's probably a better single-board computer for our Pi Lab. <br>
<div><br></div><br><a href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/arduino-creator-explains-why-open-source-matters-in-hardware-too/</a> <br>
<div><br></div><br>-- <br>David L. Willson <br>Teacher, Engineer, Evangelist <br>RHCE+Satellite CCAH Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 UbuntuCP NovellCLA <br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267) <br><div><br></div><br>This is a good time for a r3VOLution. <br>
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