[SFS] On Security: Reset the Net & FFTF
Alex samide
Alex samide <absamide@yahoo.com>
Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Depending on a number of factors it is of limited assistance.=0A=0AIf you a=
re strictly relying on the encryption provided by the provider, then you ar=
en't really doing anything to benefit yourself from the various security gr=
oups within or without of the US who can issue a Tap & Gag order.=0A=0AIf y=
ou are implementing your own encryption over and above theirs then you are =
at least providing yourself that level even if they have the T&G, they only=
get your encrypted data.=0A=0AIf you are using an Onion router (www.torpro=
ject.org) then again it is limited use if your initial connection is to a p=
rovider who voluntarily gives up information when requested, or a T&G can b=
e levied against because they can capture your data within their network.=
=0A=0AThere is some good news coming out of how some of the providers and o=
ther companies are starting to fight back some ( Internet Giants Erect Barr=
iers to Spy Agencies ) as well as some additional tweaks by companies such =
as Google ( Google Buried A Clever Jab At The NSA Inside Its New Encryption=
Tool ).=0A=0AAlso you have access to things such as https://encrypted.goog=
le.com which sort of protects you, but not from Google themselves.=0A=0ASo =
some movement in the right area is happening, but in many cases you have to=
decide how much you can trust the powers that be and respond accordingly.=
=A0 Fortunately most of the encryption software out there such as PGP/GPG h=
ave been tested repeatedly and proven to be reasonable.=A0 If there is a we=
akness though we have to find it ourselves because it is obvious the NSA is=
n't willing to share any holes they have found to fix what they are too bus=
y exploiting.=0A=0A=0A =0A Internet Giants Erect Barriers to Spy Agencies=
=0AInternet companies like Google and Facebook are working to keep governme=
nts and their spy agencies out of their servers after revelations that they=
had been invaded... =0AView on www.nytimes.com Preview by Yahoo =0A=A0=
=0A =0A Google Buried A Clever Jab At The NSA Inside Its New Enc...=0AWel=
l played, Google. =0AView on www.businessinside... Preview by Yahoo =0A=
=A0=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:46 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillso=
n@thegeek.nu> wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0AThere's a question that's been perplexing =
me for a while, with which I want your helpful insights, but it needs a lit=
tle setup.=0A=0AThe NSA is evil, not our friends, our enemies in effect, if=
not in intent. The people are more spied upon than they understood pre-Sno=
wden, and the NSA did not act to clear up the misunderstanding. A misunders=
tanding between un-related parties seems OK under certain circumstances, li=
ke when you get a "steal" at a garage sale. You might choose not to inform =
the person from whom you buy a valuable antique about it's market value. Bu=
t, between friends there is a reasonable expectation of mutual loyalty. The=
NSA's very purpose is to protect the people, like a big, hairy, thuggish f=
riend, so... long story short: they're evil. Just my opinion. You don't hav=
e to agree.=0A=0AThe people want to protect themselves from their enemies. =
Duh. No explanation needed.=0A=0AEncryption works. This is why the NSA does=
"tap and gag" operations against major providers, turning them from our fr=
iends into their head-banging zombie bodyguards. They can't crack the encry=
ption, so they do what crackers do, and crack the meat, the people involved=
. Unlike the regular sort of cracker, the NSA can use the judicial system a=
s part of it's arsenal.=A0 The meat can no longer defend itself or it's fri=
ends; it has no choice but to fold the business or yield to the attack. exa=
mples: Lavabit folded. Truecrypt what? Facebook, Microsoft, and Google yiel=
ded.=0A=0ASo ... FFTF and Reset the Net launch an effort to get lots of pro=
viders and lots of individuals to encrypt. Makes sense, right? Right. But..=
.=0A=0AHow does this *not* create a false sense of safety? How does this *n=
ot* leave us entirely vulnerable to the NSA running a "tap and gag" on the =
newly-encrypted, people-friendly provider, turning them into a HBZBG or jus=
t killing them outright?=0A=0AThat is not meant as a rhetorical question. I=
hope that someone at FFTF or Reset The Net or one of you thought of this, =
and has an answer. But maybe there's no answer, in which case...=0A=0AWe th=
e people have no choice but to appeal to the legislative system for relief =
from "tap and gag" operations, for a renewed commitment to the right to pri=
vacy, or failing that, a renewed commitment to the right to free speech. I =
have little hope of success with this strategy, but it may be the only rema=
ining peaceful solution.=0A=0AIt's possible I've overlooked something. In f=
act, I kinda hope I have.=0A=0ADisclaimer: This is my own opinion, and my o=
wn question therefrom. Let my associates speak for themselves.=0A=0A--=0ADa=
vid "free hacker" Willson=0AThis is a good time for a r3VOLution.
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ing an Onion router (www.torproject.org) then again it is limited use if yo=
ur initial connection is to a provider who voluntarily gives up information=
when requested, or a T&G can be levied against because they can captur=
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spy-agencies.html?_r=3D0">Internet Giants Erect Barriers to Spy Agencies</a=
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any cases you have to decide how much you can trust the powers that be and =
respond accordingly. Fortunately most of the encryption software out =
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there is a weakness though we have to find it ourselves because it is obvi=
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ir=3D"ltr"> <font style=3D"" class=3D"" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Wedne=
sday, June 11, 2014 9:46 AM, David L. Willson <DLWillson@thegeek.nu> =
wrote:<br style=3D"" class=3D""> </font> </div> <br style=3D"" class=3D"">=
<br style=3D"" class=3D""> <div style=3D"" class=3D""><div style=3D"" class=
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"" style=3D"font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><spa=
n style=3D"" class=3D"">There's a question that's been perplexing me for a =
while, with which I want your helpful insights, but it needs a little setup=
.<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">The NSA is evil, not o=
ur friends, our enemies in effect, if not in intent. The people are more sp=
ied upon than they understood pre-Snowden, and the NSA did not act to clear=
up the misunderstanding. A misunderstanding between
un-related parties seems OK under certain circumstances, like when you get=
a "steal" at a garage sale. You might choose not to inform the person from=
whom you buy a valuable antique about it's market value. But, between frie=
nds there is a reasonable expectation of mutual loyalty. The NSA's very pur=
pose is to protect the people, like a big, hairy, thuggish friend, so... lo=
ng story short: they're evil. Just my opinion. You don't have to agree.<br =
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ss=3D"" id=3D"yiv95328987311db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"><span styl=
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The people want to protect themselves from their enemies. Duh. No explanati=
on needed.<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D""></span>Encryp=
tion works. This is why the NSA does "tap and gag" operations against major=
providers, turning them from our friends into their head-banging zombie bo=
dyguards. They can't
crack the encryption, so they do what crackers do, and crack the meat, the=
people involved. Unlike the regular sort of cracker, the NSA can use the j=
udicial system as part of it's arsenal. The meat can no longer defend=
itself or it's friends; it has no choice but to fold the business or yield=
to the attack. examples: Lavabit folded. Truecrypt what? Facebook, Microso=
ft, and Google yielded.<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">=
So ... FFTF and Reset the Net launch an effort to get lots of providers and=
lots of individuals to encrypt. Makes sense, right? Right. But...<br style=
=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">How does this *not* create a fal=
se sense of safety? How does this *not* leave us entirely vulnerable to the=
NSA running a "tap and gag" on the newly-encrypted, people-friendly provid=
er, turning them into a HBZBG or just killing them outright?<br style=3D"" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">That is not meant as a rhetorical ques=
tion. I hope that
someone at FFTF or Reset The Net or one of you </span><span style=3D"" cla=
ss=3D"" id=3D"yiv95328987311db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"><span styl=
e=3D"" class=3D"" id=3D"yiv95328987311db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">=
thought of this, and has an answer</span>. But maybe there's no answer, in =
which case...<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">We the peo=
ple have no choice but to appeal to the legislative system for relief from =
"tap and gag" operations, for a renewed commitment to the right to privacy,=
or failing that, a renewed commitment to the right to free speech. I have =
little hope of success with this strategy, but it may be the only remaining=
peaceful solution.<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">It's=
possible I've overlooked something. In fact, I kinda hope I have.<br style=
=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">Disclaimer: This is my own opini=
on, and my own question therefrom. Let my associates speak for themselves.<=
br style=3D"" class=3D""><br
style=3D"" class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D""></span>--<br style=3D"" =
class=3D"">David "free hacker" Willson<br style=3D"" class=3D"">This is a g=
ood time for a r3VOLution.<span style=3D"" class=3D""></span></span><br sty=
le=3D"" class=3D""></div></div></div><br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D=
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